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Introducing Open Salaries at Buffer

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Re: Introducing Open Salaries at Buffer

#12
Wow...the engineering salaries are significantly lower than I would've expected for a well known startup in the Bay Area...at least compared to the perceived range for such things.

Note: a less cynical take is this: GodDAMN buffer employees must be happy working there if they tolerated transparency to this level...which, really, is the best win-win for all kinds of transparency scenarios.

Re: Introducing Open Salaries at Buffer

#14
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It’s one thing to have a transparent salary policy, it’s a whole another world to publicly blog about people’s salary with a link to their Twitter account. I hope all employees agreed to have their salary published on the buffer blog. Kudos to them for trying something different.

I never understood the hypocrisy about hiding your salary.

Seems to be more of an American thing than a European thing. Not everyone will hide their salary here. Some will some won't.

Re: Introducing Open Salaries at Buffer

#17
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I never understood the hypocrisy about hiding your salary.

Seems to be more of an American thing than a European thing. Not everyone will hide their salary here. Some will some won't.

I never saw someone disclose his/her salary in France. There seems to be an expectation that doing so would produce jealousy and bitterness. So it's not only an American thing.

Re: Introducing Open Salaries at Buffer

#18
I have a feeling you will regret this soon. There are certain benefits in having a firm salary structure sponsored by a transparent system, but the loss of flexibility will hurt in ways you haven't experienced. Also, letting everyone know what their peers make can cause disgruntled employees.

Re: Introducing Open Salaries at Buffer

#19
Very humbling that no one at Buffer would call themselves a "Master", indeed many would probably but Joel at that level but he sits there on a 1.2x multiplier.

I once had a conversation with an old hat who said "If you call yourself a python master you better be fucking Guido."

Re: Introducing Open Salaries at Buffer

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Yeah, I think it would have been more than enough to simply explain the formula and provide some anonymized examples. On another note, I am quite surprised at how underpaid some of their positions seem. Senior iOS engineer barely cracking 100k in a very expensive market...

Yeah, that's pretty ballsy. Seems like they're exposing themselves to unnecessary poaching risk. And what do they do in that situation? What if someone has a competing offer and they want to keep them around? Offer a bonus?

Nope, you talk about transparency, fairness, etc. If you're sticking to that salary structure you're not going to win on price in this market.

Warm fuzzies are important to a lot of people, look at how non-profits retain people. Also, there are a lot of people who don't know how to negotiate that would probably benefit from something like this.

I know a few devs who stick around at places because they like the people, etc, despite having had multiple offers for more money. Not my style, but it takes all sorts.

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