Well, this Pope has been remarkably liberal and transformational. He's only remarkable in the context of the last few popes, who were insanely conservative. Francis is merely extremely conservative...
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Time Person of the Year 2013
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#12Time awarding Snowden POY would them look out of the loop. That seems to be the logiical PR explanation. Vatican is really a diminished institution, while the NSA is ascendent. This just impugns the relevance of Time mag's editorial, in a way...which is not flattering.
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#13They have well and truly learnt that they get more clicks by naming someone completely undeserving than the answer everyone expects.
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#14For crying out loud! What difference has the Pope made to the world (and do remember, the world does include non-Christian countries...or roughly 5 billion out of 7 billion people...and I'm not even getting into Catholics vs. non-Catholics here).
Colour me cynical, but any publication that declares anyone other than Edward Snowden as the Person of the Year in 2013 has to have some pretty BIG reasons for doing so. And the Pope's just don't cut it.
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#15Well, we all know Time, Time/Warner and the media in general in the US is owned in the worst definitive way. So, of course Snowden can't be Person of the Year.
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#16Why are these "Person of the Year" stories still relevant?
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#17Well, this Pope has been remarkably liberal and transformational. He's only remarkable in the context of the last few popes, who were insanely conservative. Francis is merely extremely conservative...
>Well, this Pope has been remarkably liberal and transformational
Has he? I know that he has been saying a lot of stuff, but has he actually changed anything? I get the feeling that either he is full of shit, or that he doesn't actually have the power to carry out all the reforms that he says he will.
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#18For crying out loud! What difference has the Pope made to the world (and do remember, the world does include non-Christian countries...or roughly 5 billion out of 7 billion people...and I'm not even getting into Catholics vs. non-Catholics here). Colour me cynical, but any publication that declares anyone other than Edward Snowden as the Person of the Year in 2013 has to have some pretty BIG reasons for doing so. And…
Obama has been person of the year twice in the last 5 years and there seem to be other countries than the USA last time i checked.
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#19For crying out loud! What difference has the Pope made to the world (and do remember, the world does include non-Christian countries...or roughly 5 billion out of 7 billion people...and I'm not even getting into Catholics vs. non-Catholics here). Colour me cynical, but any publication that declares anyone other than Edward Snowden as the Person of the Year in 2013 has to have some pretty BIG reasons for doing so. And…
Right now there are high hopes that the Pope will make a difference. Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize nine months after his election. For what reason if not high hopes?
To a huge number of people on this planet the problems around the NSA are rather insignificant.
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#20I figured they wouldn't give it to Snowden. They're too scared/docile to do such a thing. They gave it to Zuckerberg - in 2011 (why that year?!) - instead of Assange, too, so whatever. To me Time POY is useless.