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Why Millennials Can’t Grow Up

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Re: Why Millennials Can’t Grow Up

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A lot of these parents are enablers. They made it ok for their overachiever kids to have no job as opposed to a job not in their field of study.

I graduated during the recession of 2003-2004 which was almost as long as the Great Recession. We've been technically out of the recession for over 3 years.

Re: Why Millennials Can’t Grow Up

#12
I'm thirty but I do notice many of my coworkers and other folks my age cannot grow up. It's not even just a matter of getting a job. Most of the folks I know are still partying all the time as if they're at a high school kegger.

I'm not sure of the exact cause, but I do think people having children later in life (late 30s, early 40s for many people I know) coupled with the fact that most of them are only having one child causes a bit of over-involvement and softening of parenting. There are too many "special snowflakes" who grow up and cannot handle the fact that none of us are these special creatures and you have to compete for everything you want and need to live.

I think shifting blame to older generations is a result of some of these things. Yes, there have been some messed up things handed down to us, but it's nothing we can't fix. We just have to get our act together, plan things out, and work hard.

Life IS hard, but it's how you respond and adapt to hardships that define you. Blaming everyone else is not going to do anything.

Re: Why Millennials Can’t Grow Up

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It seems every generation discovers the same new problems of every generation before it. And as each earlier generation matures, it describes the new generation disparagingly.

This article described the movie The Graduate, which everyone felt described a generation coming of age in the 60s. Pick other movies and books for other times.

Take it far enough back and you have this quote

"Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority, they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers."

which sounds contemporary but dates back centuries (often attributed to Socrates, but not likely that old). It sounds contemporary in every time.

I conclude things aren't suddenly getting worse -- http://joshuaspodek.com/arent-suddenly-worse -- which makes my life better.

Re: Why Millennials Can’t Grow Up

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Yay! Another article where the older generation shits on a younger generation. Is it possible - and this is just me talking here - that maybe our generation isn't composed of a bunch of emotional weaklings who can't bear the stress of life, but that you guys fucked it up pretty badly for us? Your self-interested conservative personal responsibility do it yourself policies bankrupted the economy because you were aslee…

Overall I think the article is true, but I've also been saying the same thing myself about people my age for several years.

I'm reminded that a friend of mine in grad school occasionally gets phone calls from the parents of the college students in some of his classes when they do poorly, and that parents are often the ones setting up tutoring and such for their in-college kids, rather than the students themselves.

It's plain ridiculous.

Feeling like you want to become self supporting and out from under the parental thumb definitely seems to be unusual in my generation.

Re: Why Millennials Can’t Grow Up

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post #5

Yay! Another article where the older generation shits on a younger generation. Is it possible - and this is just me talking here - that maybe our generation isn't composed of a bunch of emotional weaklings who can't bear the stress of life, but that you guys fucked it up pretty badly for us? Your self-interested conservative personal responsibility do it yourself policies bankrupted the economy because you were aslee…

Yay! Another comment where the younger generation blames the older generation. You see the problem with this type of argument, right?

Re: Why Millennials Can’t Grow Up

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This isn't a story representative of a generation, this is a story about one messed-up 30 year old. I can't think of anyone I know who can't figure out how to do laundry and homework in one day, and I don't think it's because I'm in a circle of particularly self-sufficient Gen-Yers. Honestly, if the Onion were stuck for content they could publish this article word-for-word and I'd gladly believe it was supposed to be…

If I understood the author correctly, she is a psychotherapist talking about people she sees professionally. So, this could just as easily be a story about how Millennials are much more willing to see a therapist for these sorts of problems than their parents' and grandparents' generations were.

Re: Why Millennials Can’t Grow Up

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post #7
post #5

Yay! Another article where the older generation shits on a younger generation. Is it possible - and this is just me talking here - that maybe our generation isn't composed of a bunch of emotional weaklings who can't bear the stress of life, but that you guys fucked it up pretty badly for us? Your self-interested conservative personal responsibility do it yourself policies bankrupted the economy because you were aslee…

The average parent's age for first child has never been higher, just like the rate of 20-somethings still living with their parents. No matter what the reasons for that are, you can't refute that it's bound to have some interesting consequences on the psychology of the 20-somethings in question.

you can't refute

Actually, maybe we could, if we had some evidence, which you don't.

Re: Why Millennials Can’t Grow Up

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post #7
post #5

Yay! Another article where the older generation shits on a younger generation. Is it possible - and this is just me talking here - that maybe our generation isn't composed of a bunch of emotional weaklings who can't bear the stress of life, but that you guys fucked it up pretty badly for us? Your self-interested conservative personal responsibility do it yourself policies bankrupted the economy because you were aslee…

The average parent's age for first child has never been higher, just like the rate of 20-somethings still living with their parents. No matter what the reasons for that are, you can't refute that it's bound to have some interesting consequences on the psychology of the 20-somethings in question.

I completely agree. Hell, some first-time parents are as old as many first-time grandparents.

Re: Why Millennials Can’t Grow Up

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post #9

This isn't a story representative of a generation, this is a story about one messed-up 30 year old. I can't think of anyone I know who can't figure out how to do laundry and homework in one day, and I don't think it's because I'm in a circle of particularly self-sufficient Gen-Yers. Honestly, if the Onion were stuck for content they could publish this article word-for-word and I'd gladly believe it was supposed to be…

This therapist alone has seen more than 100:

"Her case is becoming the norm for twenty- to thirtysomethings I see in my office as a psychotherapist. I’ve had at least 100 college and grad students like Amy crying on my couch because breaching adulthood is too overwhelming."

Re: Why Millennials Can’t Grow Up

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Great counterpoint in the New York Times the other day on the shifting values of millenials.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/01/opinion/sunday/millennial-...

This is more the extrapolation of one struggling 30 year old onto a generation rather than the symptoms of an entire group of people

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