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Libuv developer chided for making docs gender neutral

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Re: Libuv developer chided for making docs gender neutral

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1. However well intentioned, this sort of pedantry (the change from 'him' to 'them') just alienates efforts to make things more inclusive, rather than actually helping . 2. Reverting the change appears to be fairly petty. By all means talk to the author of the commit about it, but commit tennis just makes the project look a little immature. 3. Is libuv really now at the point where it is 100% kitchen-sink-included-fe…

> rather than actually helping

Nope: http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/27784423?uid=246033817...

Re: Libuv developer chided for making docs gender neutral

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post #11

Title should be: "Libuv developer chided for allegedly merging commit without proper sign off" Post should be: buried.

There was a sign-off apparently: https://github.com/joyent/libuv/commit/804d40ee14dc0f82c482d...

Hence "allegedly".

Re: Libuv developer chided for making docs gender neutral

#14

1. However well intentioned, this sort of pedantry (the change from 'him' to 'them') just alienates efforts to make things more inclusive, rather than actually helping . 2. Reverting the change appears to be fairly petty. By all means talk to the author of the commit about it, but commit tennis just makes the project look a little immature. 3. Is libuv really now at the point where it is 100% kitchen-sink-included-fe…

> rather than actually helping Nope: http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/27784423?uid=246033817...

So if I'm reading this right, using 'he' as a generic is actually worse than having explicitly male examples, in terms of comprehension?

Did they specifically test using 'they'? I would imagine that it would distract some people who expect plural, but I have no guess as to how large this factor would be in comparison.

Re: Libuv developer chided for making docs gender neutral

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post #10

[*] arrogantly dismissed gender neutrality as "trivial" (#1015) [*] actively taken steps to revert positive gender neutrality change [*] chided @isaacs unnecessarily [] removed women entirely from the industry Ostensibly, reverting a pointless commit is one step away from removing women entirely from the tech industry. Most shocking to me is how some people in the previous commit discussion genuinely believe that mod…

Because it's magical thinking at its best... Personally I would have used "them" from the beginning (or the equivalent in my native language), but correcting someone like this is condescending and it would irritate me too. This atmosphere of hysteria - ooh, ooh, he's just about to remove women from the industry - reminds me of religious fundamentalists who also want to shove their worldview down everybody's throat an…

Except there is a difference in that the really awful scenario is already here, and little by little, with big and small efforts, some communities are trying to climb out of it. How is spreading fear of upcoming doom in any way similar to trying to fix the existing, real problem?
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