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Jolla CEO: You will soon be able turn your Android device into a Sailfish device

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Re: Jolla CEO: You will soon be able turn your Android device into a Sailfish device

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Post by TsiCClawOfLight »

laureny wrote: post #10
gmuslera wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People reflashing devices is not "all users", and that leaves open a few possibilities. For users, a far better user interface (still prefer the user interface of the N9 over android one), a new app ecosystem (work most android apps, plus jolla native/meego/mer ones, maybe will be a compatibility layer to run ubuntu touch/tizen ones, and as it is based on qt/qml, probably will be easy to port BB10 ones too. And of co…

> Remember, part of android success was that people was able to install cyanogenmod in their old windows phones. Not really, no. Only a tiny fraction of Android users even know what cyanogen mod is, let alone install it on their phone. That's not at all what made Android successful.

He's referring to the beginning, were geeks were still important for android.

Re: Jolla CEO: You will soon be able turn your Android device into a Sailfish device

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Post by salient »

gmuslera wrote: post #9
rwmj wrote: post #2

He doesn't address the obvious question: Why? Why for the end user? Why for Jolla?

People reflashing devices is not "all users", and that leaves open a few possibilities. For users, a far better user interface (still prefer the user interface of the N9 over android one), a new app ecosystem (work most android apps, plus jolla native/meego/mer ones, maybe will be a compatibility layer to run ubuntu touch/tizen ones, and as it is based on qt/qml, probably will be easy to port BB10 ones too. And of co…

But the Jolla phone doesn't actually use the N9 interface, does it? I personally think it's a pretty ugly and outdated interface, but each to their own. I like Ubuntu Touch more at least aesthetics wise. Android KitKat is prettier than both.

Re: Jolla CEO: You will soon be able turn your Android device into a Sailfish device

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Post by Brakenshire »

Very interesting section on China:

> ”There is no such culture in these parts of the world [Finland], but there are people that are installing new operating systems on their devices. In China it is mainstream. About half of the smartphone buyers are upgrading their older or cheaper devices with a better version of Android.”

> “For us it is a possibility to distribute our operating system especially in China. There are websites that already distribute [OS] software and the Chinese customers are doing it ­so we don’t have to teach them. We just have to get Sailfish to those websites – and to make sure that Sailfish will run on different kind of Android devices.”

Half of all smartphone buyers are flashing their devices with new operating systems? That seems astonishing.

Re: Jolla CEO: You will soon be able turn your Android device into a Sailfish device

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Post by humpty44 »

This is the best news I've read all month! I really hope they make the process easy. As an ex-Nokia user I've never been the biggest fan of Google's android monoculture and big brother approach to my privacy. I'd be interested to see how sailfish compares to android in terms of resource utilisation.

Re: Jolla CEO: You will soon be able turn your Android device into a Sailfish device

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Post by jckt »

Brakenshire wrote: post #13

Very interesting section on China: > ”There is no such culture in these parts of the world [Finland], but there are people that are installing new operating systems on their devices. In China it is mainstream. About half of the smartphone buyers are upgrading their older or cheaper devices with a better version of Android.” > “For us it is a possibility to distribute our operating system especially in China. There ar…

I know quite a few of these people and most of them say that when they do that it feels like they're using a totally new phone, without much cost.

Re: Jolla CEO: You will soon be able turn your Android device into a Sailfish device

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Post by pinaceae »

Android is so widespread due its nature as the QNX of the mobile world. A manufacturer gets it for free and then can add shit on to it.

The vast majority of users chose a cheap smartphone, not Android explicitly. Samsung and others do not even mention Android anymore, that for specsheets like the processor being used. China has this large number of Android devices which are non-Google, no Play Store, no Google Now, nothing.

Now Jolla comes in and acts as an alternative to Android. For whom? End users? 99% don't give a shit. Like asking which fuel injection systems your car uses.

So what does Jolla offer to manufacturers to choose it over Android? Even less restrictions than the open Android? Less cost? If so, it can't be price - will they adapt the OS for specific hardware for free as well?

Android compatibility. You want a KILLER feature? iOS compatibility. Enable devs to simply copy over their code and run their shit on Jolla.

Re: Jolla CEO: You will soon be able turn your Android device into a Sailfish device

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Post by fidotron »

laureny wrote: post #10
gmuslera wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People reflashing devices is not "all users", and that leaves open a few possibilities. For users, a far better user interface (still prefer the user interface of the N9 over android one), a new app ecosystem (work most android apps, plus jolla native/meego/mer ones, maybe will be a compatibility layer to run ubuntu touch/tizen ones, and as it is based on qt/qml, probably will be easy to port BB10 ones too. And of co…

> Remember, part of android success was that people was able to install cyanogenmod in their old windows phones. Not really, no. Only a tiny fraction of Android users even know what cyanogen mod is, let alone install it on their phone. That's not at all what made Android successful.

A tiny fraction of hundreds of millions still works out in the millions. The number of people that modify Android devices is really quite astonishing.

Re: Jolla CEO: You will soon be able turn your Android device into a Sailfish device

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Post by frozenport »

The only thing that will save Jolla is a time machine.

Its important to note that most of us don't like Google for moral rather then practical reasons. The best strategy might be to upstream Android to the Linux kernel and and develop a userland clone.

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