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America's underground market for adopted children

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Re: America's underground market for adopted children

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Interesting read, btw in Russia from January 1, 2013 there is a law that bans adoptions of Russian children by United States citizens.

Most of the developed countries forbid adoptions of country nationals by foreign citizens, how many US children got adopted by foreign countries?...not sure why Russian media is making such a big buzz around this law, probably just to find one more way to criticize Putin.

I don't have numbers, but people from outside America can adopt American children.

Re: America's underground market for adopted children

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There was a Reddit post about this not too long ago. A mom of an adopted child posted. She described how many parents, including her, had no idea what they were getting into adopting a child coming from a troubled background. Things that child did, as she described it, were very disturbing, and would bring many people to their brink. So one can argue it starts with ignorance. People think raising a child is a walk in…

It's not that they will paper over problems a child has; if you read other sources they will outright lie. I also recall reading, unfortunately an article that I can no longer find, that China and Russia would often give severely challenged children to US adoptive parents.

The article also emphasizes that the US government, both federal and state, offers virtually no help to the parents and highlights a case where the parents where threatened with prosecution because they couldn't handle a child that had physically hurt one of their other children.

There is plenty of blame to go around, unfortunately, but it really highlights the almost complete lack of mental health care available in the US and the lack of help for parents who have very damaged children, whether adopted or not.

Re: America's underground market for adopted children

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Interesting read, btw in Russia from January 1, 2013 there is a law that bans adoptions of Russian children by United States citizens.

Most of the developed countries forbid adoptions of country nationals by foreign citizens, how many US children got adopted by foreign countries?...not sure why Russian media is making such a big buzz around this law, probably just to find one more way to criticize Putin.

> Most of the developed countries forbid adoptions of country nationals by foreign citizens

I wouldn't exactly consider Russia "developed".

Re: America's underground market for adopted children

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There was a Reddit post about this not too long ago. A mom of an adopted child posted. She described how many parents, including her, had no idea what they were getting into adopting a child coming from a troubled background. Things that child did, as she described it, were very disturbing, and would bring many people to their brink. So one can argue it starts with ignorance. People think raising a child is a walk in…

It's not that they will paper over problems a child has; if you read other sources they will outright lie. I also recall reading, unfortunately an article that I can no longer find, that China and Russia would often give severely challenged children to US adoptive parents. The article also emphasizes that the US government, both federal and state, offers virtually no help to the parents and highlights a case where th…

My parents adopted my sister from Russia about 20 years ago. At the time, Russian law only allowed foreign adoptions if the child had a physical or mental disability. My sister had a crossed eye, that was sufficient to allow her out of the country. She is now 22 years old, going to college, and living a happy, healthy life. Some friends of my parents adopted two children from the same orphanage, a brother and sister. The brother had serious issues - trying to kill his parents and run away at 6 years old type thing. They eventually placed him in the home of parents with no other children who were looking for a child like that to care for, I lost track of the story after that. The sister is also leading a normal, ostensibly happy life, though.

Re: America's underground market for adopted children

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Land of the free. Maybe legal custody should be limited to relatives or people with a proven connection to the official family, or disallowed at all for children adopted from foreign countries? It is disturbing to read all these ads talking about "private adoption" like it's a puppy trade fair.

Why not take it to its logical conclusion and require a government permit, after proving responsibility, to get pregnant and bear a child? I'd be willing to bet there are an order of magnitude or more kids suffering abuse and neglect living with their biological parents than there are living in a "private guardianship" arrangement.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of the developed countries forbid adoptions of country nationals by foreign citizens, how many US children got adopted by foreign countries?...not sure why Russian media is making such a big buzz around this law, probably just to find one more way to criticize Putin.

> Most of the developed countries forbid adoptions of country nationals by foreign citizens I wouldn't exactly consider Russia "developed".

I wouldn't consider your opinion well thought through.

Re: America's underground market for adopted children

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If you have not seen it, please watch the Conspiracy Of Silence documentary.

Also - if you are unaware, you should look into Johnny Gosh/Jeff Gannon and how he relates to the Bush/Republican party with respect to the information revealed in the Conspiracy of Silence.

Re: America's underground market for adopted children

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not that they will paper over problems a child has; if you read other sources they will outright lie. I also recall reading, unfortunately an article that I can no longer find, that China and Russia would often give severely challenged children to US adoptive parents. The article also emphasizes that the US government, both federal and state, offers virtually no help to the parents and highlights a case where th…

My parents adopted my sister from Russia about 20 years ago. At the time, Russian law only allowed foreign adoptions if the child had a physical or mental disability. My sister had a crossed eye, that was sufficient to allow her out of the country. She is now 22 years old, going to college, and living a happy, healthy life. Some friends of my parents adopted two children from the same orphanage, a brother and sister.…

Yeah, it's the kind of thing that requires almost all of one's attention on.

Re: America's underground market for adopted children

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I'm floored by Facebook's response to being notified that potentially illegal child exchanges were being conducted on the site. FTA: 'A similar forum on Facebook, Way Stations of Love, remains active. A Facebook spokeswoman says the page shows "that the Internet is a reflection of society, and people are using it for all kinds of communications and to tackle all sorts of problems, including very complicated issues su…

Is facebook still blocking photos of breast-feeding mothers (but allowing beheading videos?)

Re: America's underground market for adopted children

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Land of the free. Maybe legal custody should be limited to relatives or people with a proven connection to the official family, or disallowed at all for children adopted from foreign countries? It is disturbing to read all these ads talking about "private adoption" like it's a puppy trade fair.

Why not take it to its logical conclusion and require a government permit, after proving responsibility, to get pregnant and bear a child? I'd be willing to bet there are an order of magnitude or more kids suffering abuse and neglect living with their biological parents than there are living in a "private guardianship" arrangement.

Whoa. I'm talking about giving out your children to strangers just by signing a piece of paper; though I'd be willing to bet against your assumption, it is said that adopted children are more prone to mental and behavioral issues.

In any case, that's what social services do, only after the fact instead of a pre-screening.

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