Just waiting for "Works best on Chrome" Silverlight and ActiveX have already shown the usefulness of proprietary enhancements. No thanks.
Dart is as open as possible. this is nothing like silverlight or activex.
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#12So if i get it right, the way "Google" sees the future, there is Go at the server side and Dart at client side (which is in fact JS). Am I wrong?
I would expect Google, or at least, a team at Google, to take over NodeJS which is based on their V8 and expand it to universal server client language and libs. JS can be complied into go binaries after all, so why not letting people write apps using the same language.
Let alone I see no effort on their side bringing any of those language into the native world of Android, instead we got this cluttering Java thing as almost the only options for most projects.
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#13Would someone who knows HTML/CSS/RoR better of learning Dart or JS next?
Without any additional special assumptions about the someone and their particular circumstances, learning JS is probably a lower risk investment, learning Dart is probably higher risk and higher potential payoff; thinking only in terms of future income potential.
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#14Just waiting for "Works best on Chrome" Silverlight and ActiveX have already shown the usefulness of proprietary enhancements. No thanks.
It compiles to JavaScript. The VM and dart2js are MIT licensed. It's not the same situation.
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#15Just waiting for "Works best on Chrome" Silverlight and ActiveX have already shown the usefulness of proprietary enhancements. No thanks.
The code will be compiled to JS, I don't think it is gonna make difference which browser you use.
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#16Why doesn't Google include the native Dart VM in Chrome? I think it would boost it's usage significantly. Maybe I'm missing a bigger picture.
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#17This is really awesome! Congrats to the team!
We have a ton of JavaScript/CoffeeScript code and I really wish we could use something like Dart. JavaScript is great for smaller projects, but once you get a ton of code it really becomes a unmanageable mess.
I think tho' it would be amazing if Dart could run on the server side as well. This way you could just have one language on both the client and the server.
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#18Would someone who knows HTML/CSS/RoR better of learning Dart or JS next?
Even if you use language X that compiles to javascript ,you still need to learn javascript, Or it's a bit like learning rails without understanding ruby.
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#19Why doesn't Google include the native Dart VM in Chrome? I think it would boost it's usage significantly. Maybe I'm missing a bigger picture.
> Why doesn't Google include the native Dart VM in Chrome?
Probably because Dartium (Chome w/Dart) doesn't yet have the kind of performance advantage that makes it compelling enough to split the web that way -- making developers use dart2js for client code means that you don't need separate client code for Chrome (Dart) and everyone else (JS) -- and needing to commit to extended support of two different scripting runtimes in Chrome for the future.
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#20This is really awesome! Congrats to the team! We have a ton of JavaScript/CoffeeScript code and I really wish we could use something like Dart. JavaScript is great for smaller projects, but once you get a ton of code it really becomes a unmanageable mess. I think tho' it would be amazing if Dart could run on the server side as well. This way you could just have one language on both the client and the server.
Dart does run on the server. The VM runs standalone for scripts and long-running apps, and the dart:io library provides very node.js like file, network and HTTP APIs, with the addition of Isolates for actor-like concurrency.