Live data from Hacker News

How I Ate No Food for 30 Days

motherboard.vice.com

11–20 of 297 posts

Re: How I Ate No Food for 30 Days

#11
This is a pretty sensationalist headline, given that they're in a new factory, new offices, and the general findings of the experiment are so positive that the subject is considering going back on Soylent in the future.

Re: How I Ate No Food for 30 Days

#12

It's unfortunate for Soylent to end up in such a situation given how easily it could have been prevented. For me however it does not discount the product in the least, and I would expect a rethinking of the production process to be posted soon in response.

they will fix that in the next agile iteration.

;)

Re: How I Ate No Food for 30 Days

#13

It's unfortunate for Soylent to end up in such a situation given how easily it could have been prevented. For me however it does not discount the product in the least, and I would expect a rethinking of the production process to be posted soon in response.

> For me however it does not discount the product in the least

You can get better products from reputable companies.

Or you can buy this gloop, from a bunch of people who clearly have little clue about what they're doing.

Re: How I Ate No Food for 30 Days

#14
post #6

There are some fairly stringent regulations that ensure food products are made in a GMP environment.[1] Flaunting those rules is extremely dangerous, both from a health perspective and from a legal one. There are numerous instances where those in charge of food operations have gone to prison for failing to maintain hygienic standards.[2] Soylent better get their shit together. Food safety is nothing to play around wi…

Aren't supplements/non-medical powders/various other juju immune from FDA issues?

They don't need to be approved in the typical FDA sense, but the ingredients do need to be considered GRAS (Generally Recognized as Safe).[1]

GRAS just tells people what they're allowed to sell, but most food products have been around long enough they are grandfathered in. The bigger issue that the FDA still mandates, is that the products are prepared under cGMP standards. The standards are open, available, and not at all onerous if you intend to be an honest business.[2]

Essentially, you need to have trained staff, clean buildings, batch records, clean equipment, known ingredients (no allergens accidentally introduced), etc. Really basic stuff. Unfortunately, it's mostly self-policed until an 'incident' at which case the FDA can do an audit and raise hell.

[1] - http://www.fda.gov/Food/IngredientsPackagingLabeling/GRAS/

[2] - http://www.fda.gov/cosmetics/guidancecomplianceregulatoryinf...

Re: How I Ate No Food for 30 Days

#15
post #10
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren't supplements/non-medical powders/various other juju immune from FDA issues?

FDA regulates both finished dietary supplement products and dietary ingredients. FDA regulates dietary supplements under a different set of regulations than those covering "conventional" foods and drug products. Under the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 (DSHEA): - The manufacturer of a dietary supplement or dietary ingredient is responsible for ensuring that the product is safe before it is market…

Ah, got it. So it's just self policing until you kill someone, then the regulators step in.

Re: How I Ate No Food for 30 Days

#17

There are some fairly stringent regulations that ensure food products are made in a GMP environment.[1] Flaunting those rules is extremely dangerous, both from a health perspective and from a legal one. There are numerous instances where those in charge of food operations have gone to prison for failing to maintain hygienic standards.[2] Soylent better get their shit together. Food safety is nothing to play around wi…

Soylent doesn't manufacture their own product. They use a co-packer, RFI.

Re: How I Ate No Food for 30 Days

#19

It's unfortunate for Soylent to end up in such a situation given how easily it could have been prevented. For me however it does not discount the product in the least, and I would expect a rethinking of the production process to be posted soon in response.

It is not "unfortunate" it is incompetent. They basically do not know what they are doing. Why did they start manufacture when they were not set up properly?

Re: How I Ate No Food for 30 Days

#20

It's unfortunate for Soylent to end up in such a situation given how easily it could have been prevented. For me however it does not discount the product in the least, and I would expect a rethinking of the production process to be posted soon in response.

Perhaps they should have hired someone who knew anything about food production. Instead they hired a frat buddy to be a Chief of Customer Success. Hope he has experience handling foodborne illnesses.
Post reply on HN