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French PM releases the G8 Open Data Charter Action Plan for France

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Re: French PM releases the G8 Open Data Charter Action Plan for France

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That's great, but with tax rates of 75-100% for the rich I have a hard time believing they'll attract a lot of serious entrepreneurs.

I'm not sure there's a lot of entrepreneurs starting with an income greater than a million € though!

Nobody starts a company for the initial salary.

Re: French PM releases the G8 Open Data Charter Action Plan for France

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That's a nice ethos to adopt as a government, but he can't ignore the crippling taxes his government have instated since taking up office. I feel very sorry for business owners in France at the moment.

Open data and open source encourage the commons and sharing. Taxes goal is to have everyone contribute to common good. I see more of an alignment than a contradiction. Remember that taxes are poured back in public transportation, hospitals, social security, etc. (Not measured by PIB). Also remember that what you read about in the media is biased by those that are unhappy.

Re: French PM releases the G8 Open Data Charter Action Plan for France

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At the last G8 Summit in Lough Erne, Northern Ireland this past June, the Chiefs of State had agreed on an Open Data Charter committing their respective governments to make efforts to bring more open data online in machine-readable formats. Today France releases its action plan for the implementation of the Charter, and specifically commits to releasing more governement datasets and APIs for hackers and startups to e…

Could you point to the source of the "hackers and startups" quote? Didn't find it in the main article. (Edit: sorry if this is on a tangent) (Edit 2: well, I didn't think it was a downvote-worthy tangent, considering the word's connotations debate and this being an official govt url)

Our objective to support "hackers" and the startup ecosystem is mentioned under Commitment #4 (supporting open innovation in France and throughout the world).

Re: French PM releases the G8 Open Data Charter Action Plan for France

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Link to the license under which the data will / is being released. Pretty ok! http://ddata.over-blog.com/xxxyyy/4/37/99/26/licence/Licence...

Thank you!

We developed the "Open Licence" in consultation with citizens, the Open Government Data community in France (Wikimedia Foundation, Regards Citoyens, etc.), and governments worldwide (the Transparency Team at the Cabinet office in London) during a series of more than 50 workshops and meetings in 2011.

Glad you like it. Feel free to send feedback and/or <3 to my team mate Alexandre Quintard (@AlexandreQK) of Etalab (data.gouv.fr).

Re: French PM releases the G8 Open Data Charter Action Plan for France

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That's pure bs: www.data.gouv.fr is full of XLS and DOC documents. No raw data, only aggregated statistics. Useless. Documents and data are not the same... I'm french, and NOT proud of it

Hi Weddpros -- thanks for the feedback. As it turns out, we agree with you. That's why we've been working on a complete overhaul of http://data.gouv.fr to be soft-launched soon, and we think you'll like it!

If you've followed http://etalab.gouv.fr (mostly in French, sorry), you may have heard we launched an open and collaborative re-design process in the spring and summer, which lead to more than 60 substantial contributions and 9 events organized by our community of users throughout France.

We then brought in a team of hackers to work inside of government -- believe it or not, this is most likely the first instance of this in the French government; unsurprisingly it worked very well -- and redevelop the whole stack based off of CKAN.

Our code is live on http://www.github.com/etalab if you'd like to check it out. Stay tuned!

Re: French PM releases the G8 Open Data Charter Action Plan for France

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you point to the source of the "hackers and startups" quote? Didn't find it in the main article. (Edit: sorry if this is on a tangent) (Edit 2: well, I didn't think it was a downvote-worthy tangent, considering the word's connotations debate and this being an official govt url)

Our objective to support "hackers" and the startup ecosystem is mentioned under Commitment #4 (supporting open innovation in France and throughout the world).

Found it, thanks. Nice.

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Link to the license under which the data will / is being released. Pretty ok! http://ddata.over-blog.com/xxxyyy/4/37/99/26/licence/Licence...

Thank you! We developed the "Open Licence" in consultation with citizens, the Open Government Data community in France (Wikimedia Foundation, Regards Citoyens, etc.), and governments worldwide (the Transparency Team at the Cabinet office in London) during a series of more than 50 workshops and meetings in 2011. Glad you like it. Feel free to send feedback and/or <3 to my team mate Alexandre Quintard (@AlexandreQK) of…

Using it on the recent public feed of data from JCDecaux on the latest iteration of my project [1], hope I am referencing the license accordingly! On the source I am referencing the link to the JCDecaux website, but could to etalab easily :)

[1]: http://staging.citybik.es/networks/velib

EDIT: Forgot to add, I should also release my data under a license and have contemplated using the "Open Licence", but I am not yet sure on what will suit best.

Re: French PM releases the G8 Open Data Charter Action Plan for France

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you point to the source of the "hackers and startups" quote? Didn't find it in the main article. (Edit: sorry if this is on a tangent) (Edit 2: well, I didn't think it was a downvote-worthy tangent, considering the word's connotations debate and this being an official govt url)

Our objective to support "hackers" and the startup ecosystem is mentioned under Commitment #4 (supporting open innovation in France and throughout the world).

I know that nicknames are here because of anonymity and so on, but can I ask you who are you to say that ?

In the current context, I can hardly see any window for introducing disruptive innovation (I mean it, there is room for that) in France. Those who wants don't have money (mayors, univs, scientists), and those who have don't want it cause of so many reasons (employment would be the first).

Stays the middle-size societies, where the entry ticket is damn so high and who are busy too think about the next tax that will be created/canceled/rebranded/transformed/increased/wasted.

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That's pure bs: www.data.gouv.fr is full of XLS and DOC documents. No raw data, only aggregated statistics. Useless. Documents and data are not the same... I'm french, and NOT proud of it

Hi Weddpros -- thanks for the feedback. As it turns out, we agree with you. That's why we've been working on a complete overhaul of http://data.gouv.fr to be soft-launched soon, and we think you'll like it! If you've followed http://etalab.gouv.fr (mostly in French, sorry), you may have heard we launched an open and collaborative re-design process in the spring and summer, which lead to more than 60 substantial contr…

As a French expat, congratulations. There are a lot of things I'm not happy about France, but the role of open source in the public IT policy is definitely something to be proud of. Keep up the good work and keep us posted.

Now, if Danish lawmakers would only take a hint...

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