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Re: Angular Announces AngularDart

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I'm using AngularJS. But this Dart news is a dark cloud. I will never use Dart, or anything that locks me into Google's walled garden. I view Dart as a major negative. Hello Ember.

"I will never use Dart"

That's quite a sure statement. Why don't you think Dart will ever be natively adopted by Firefox at some point in the future?

Re: Angular Announces AngularDart

#12
post #7

Oh got no please no... I use Angular freakin "JS" extensively. At some point, I believe I will come to a position not to touch anything that has even a remote connection to Google. Just a couple of years ago I worshipped Google, now I feel they are always taking my toys away.

For those of us who don't have the benefit of your experience, could you explain why you think Google is doing something wrong here?

Re: Angular Announces AngularDart

#14
post #9

I'm using AngularJS. But this Dart news is a dark cloud. I will never use Dart, or anything that locks me into Google's walled garden. I view Dart as a major negative. Hello Ember.

Ember is a "no" for me beacuse of explicit getters and setters.

Angular's Object.observe like digest mechanism is superior.

Re: Angular Announces AngularDart

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post #11
post #9

I'm using AngularJS. But this Dart news is a dark cloud. I will never use Dart, or anything that locks me into Google's walled garden. I view Dart as a major negative. Hello Ember.

"I will never use Dart" That's quite a sure statement. Why don't you think Dart will ever be natively adopted by Firefox at some point in the future?

Because that's a pretty laughable idea. There's no reason for browsers to choose Dart over CoffeeScript or TypeScript, and Dart is so far behind CoffeeScript it's not even funny.

Google wants to do it, sure, but that doesn't mean they'll succeed, even if they try something as stubborn as running Dart alongside Javascript in Chrome.

There simply isn't a path to ubiquity for Dart, and if there were it's not the only language on it.

Re: Angular Announces AngularDart

#17
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First of all, this was already announced months ago, so it already happened. Secondly, Google is a big company and some teams within it wanted to use Dart, whereas otheres want to use vanila javascript and Angular, so now you have both. Thirdly, Angular is in the process of being broken apart to modular components for 2.0, it also now cross-pollinates with another Google-y called Web Components. In future, the equive…

You're able to regurgitate bullet points off a slide deck. Good job. Edit: [source & details redacted] This 'FUD' comes directly from the Angular core team.

You just outed your source.

Edit: still too many details.

Re: Angular Announces AngularDart

#18
post #11
post #9

I'm using AngularJS. But this Dart news is a dark cloud. I will never use Dart, or anything that locks me into Google's walled garden. I view Dart as a major negative. Hello Ember.

"I will never use Dart" That's quite a sure statement. Why don't you think Dart will ever be natively adopted by Firefox at some point in the future?

What do the other browser vendors gain by supporting Dart?

Re: Angular Announces AngularDart

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post #18
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I will never use Dart" That's quite a sure statement. Why don't you think Dart will ever be natively adopted by Firefox at some point in the future?

What do the other browser vendors gain by supporting Dart?

It doesn't matter - Dart can compile to JavaScript.

When it might matter is if there are apps (like games) that run faster in a Dart VM than in javascript. Anyway though, even Chrome doesn't include a Dart VM yet by default, so no big deal yet.

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