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Re: OpenBSD 5.4 Released

#11

Post by pfortuny »

csmuk wrote: post #3
sramov wrote: post #2

Packets already flowing through 5.4 - release on my 'lil ALIX home router. Workstation on - current , of course. There is nothing quite like OpenBSD out there. Thank you OpenBSD developers!

Signed up to agree. Canned 6 Ubuntu machines (servers) and replaced with OpenBSD 5.3 recently. So much goodness ships with openbsd it's unreal. Bar Theo's sharp tongue (which is usually spot on), you get pf, opensmtpd (so much cleaner than postfix), nginx in base, miles better manual pages than Linux, no horrid gnu info, small and simple base system, absolutely no surprises, no bloated crap like dbus/upstart, tmux in…

The doc is really unbeatable, I know nothing like it anywhere.

Re: OpenBSD 5.4 Released

#12

Post by tedunangst »

earlz wrote: post #5

I found out that http://openbsd.org is not the same as http://www.openbsd.org (one is much lower bandwidth) and apparently it's intentional that one doesn't redirect to the other. And that's not even to mention the website not using a static generator or CSS (despite http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/ actually being modern and good looking). From what I understand is the reason it's not changed is because it'd be too…

openbsd.org is a different machine than www.openbsd.org. Why are you using openbsd.org? Who gave you a link to it? Tell them to stop.

Re: OpenBSD 5.4 Released

#13

Post by VMG »

tedunangst wrote: post #12
earlz wrote: post #5

I found out that http://openbsd.org is not the same as http://www.openbsd.org (one is much lower bandwidth) and apparently it's intentional that one doesn't redirect to the other. And that's not even to mention the website not using a static generator or CSS (despite http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/ actually being modern and good looking). From what I understand is the reason it's not changed is because it'd be too…

openbsd.org is a different machine than www.openbsd.org. Why are you using openbsd.org? Who gave you a link to it? Tell them to stop.

I think I'm getting a little glimpse of the community here

Re: OpenBSD 5.4 Released

#15

Post by philsnow »

ape4 wrote: post #10
csmuk wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Signed up to agree. Canned 6 Ubuntu machines (servers) and replaced with OpenBSD 5.3 recently. So much goodness ships with openbsd it's unreal. Bar Theo's sharp tongue (which is usually spot on), you get pf, opensmtpd (so much cleaner than postfix), nginx in base, miles better manual pages than Linux, no horrid gnu info, small and simple base system, absolutely no surprises, no bloated crap like dbus/upstart, tmux in…

Yeah, what is the point of gnu info?

hypertext man pages ? what is it that people don't like about them ?

Re: OpenBSD 5.4 Released

#16

Post by mhurron »

ape4 wrote: post #10
csmuk wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Signed up to agree. Canned 6 Ubuntu machines (servers) and replaced with OpenBSD 5.3 recently. So much goodness ships with openbsd it's unreal. Bar Theo's sharp tongue (which is usually spot on), you get pf, opensmtpd (so much cleaner than postfix), nginx in base, miles better manual pages than Linux, no horrid gnu info, small and simple base system, absolutely no surprises, no bloated crap like dbus/upstart, tmux in…

Yeah, what is the point of gnu info?

NIH

Re: OpenBSD 5.4 Released

#17

Post by earlz »

csmuk wrote: post #6
earlz wrote: post #5

I found out that http://openbsd.org is not the same as http://www.openbsd.org (one is much lower bandwidth) and apparently it's intentional that one doesn't redirect to the other. And that's not even to mention the website not using a static generator or CSS (despite http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/ actually being modern and good looking). From what I understand is the reason it's not changed is because it'd be too…

To be honest I've been using it for about 7 years and I didn't know that. I'm not sure that matters either. It's not really a priority and I respect that.

No, and being able to download all the FAQs easily is cool but there are things where it actually impacts me. For instance, I have a netbook without a cdrom drive or floppy disk. So, to install OpenBSD on it, I had to first install OpenBSD onto another PC computer, and then run makeboot and such on my USB drive and copy over the ramdisk.

Apparently the cited excuse for why they don't support USB bootable media is because it's hard because some computers only support floppy emulator or don't support it, and there are many bugs in USB boot for older BIOS.. But that doesn't keep every other operating system of this day and age supporting it

Re: OpenBSD 5.4 Released

#18

Post by _pmf_ »

VMG wrote: post #13
tedunangst wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

openbsd.org is a different machine than www.openbsd.org. Why are you using openbsd.org? Who gave you a link to it? Tell them to stop.

I think I'm getting a little glimpse of the community here

Yeah, god forbid people having actual tasks to do instead of micromanaging their online presence like a SF web monkey.

Re: OpenBSD 5.4 Released

#19

Post by dman »

pfortuny wrote: post #11
csmuk wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Signed up to agree. Canned 6 Ubuntu machines (servers) and replaced with OpenBSD 5.3 recently. So much goodness ships with openbsd it's unreal. Bar Theo's sharp tongue (which is usually spot on), you get pf, opensmtpd (so much cleaner than postfix), nginx in base, miles better manual pages than Linux, no horrid gnu info, small and simple base system, absolutely no surprises, no bloated crap like dbus/upstart, tmux in…

The doc is really unbeatable, I know nothing like it anywhere.

Are they much different than the freebsd docs?

Re: OpenBSD 5.4 Released

#20

Post by DennisP »

csmuk wrote: post #3
sramov wrote: post #2

Packets already flowing through 5.4 - release on my 'lil ALIX home router. Workstation on - current , of course. There is nothing quite like OpenBSD out there. Thank you OpenBSD developers!

Signed up to agree. Canned 6 Ubuntu machines (servers) and replaced with OpenBSD 5.3 recently. So much goodness ships with openbsd it's unreal. Bar Theo's sharp tongue (which is usually spot on), you get pf, opensmtpd (so much cleaner than postfix), nginx in base, miles better manual pages than Linux, no horrid gnu info, small and simple base system, absolutely no surprises, no bloated crap like dbus/upstart, tmux in…

Do you know how it does with high concurrent loads these days?
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