With each passing day, I look less and less like a lunatic for avoiding facebook (and its ilk) like the plague. You should try it.
People think those who don't use Facebook are lunatics? Why?
depending on the demographic, sure.
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#12A response to 'The Zuckerberg Files' (http://zuckerbergfiles.org/)?
I find it hard to justify a use for this type of info online? You can get money-related businesses because of the need to comply legally but why facebook?
Off topic: Does anyone think Google's floating barge is a way to evade compliance when it comes to data monitoring? Theoretically they could go further offshore
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#13With each passing day, I look less and less like a lunatic for avoiding facebook (and its ilk) like the plague. You should try it.
People think those who don't use Facebook are lunatics? Why?
In some demographics it's seen as at least sort of quaint/eccentric disconnection, like not having a mobile phone.
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#14With each passing day, I look less and less like a lunatic for avoiding facebook (and its ilk) like the plague. You should try it.
Never ever registering or browsing facebook was the obvious thing to do, at least it is for people who have been around and online for a while.
It's the total opposite of the web and the internet, not pseudymous, centralized, using shady tactics to grow, spamming at times and so on.
I don't care everybody, their grandma and their dog have an account, until it is decentralized p2P, encrypted and my data stays my own and in my own vicinity, I won't be part of so called "social network" services/websites. I have email already.
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#15This is a smart move by Facebook; they already sit on the worlds largest data trove (user profiles with likes, family member info, network info, tagged pictures, etc. etc.), and now they add the last part of the user verification step...
How is this smart? (Not disagreeing, just requesting more info.)
They can validate their social network graph with ease and therefore ensure they are selling perfectly valid data.
It's really disgusting to see people willfully submitting to this.
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#16Two comments on this: We started http://www.nymrights.org to combat issues like this. One of our long term goals is to get companies to adopt policies preventing data demands like this unless sufficient protections (read, laws) are in place. (if you're a company debating adopting such a policy, I'd love to chat!) Second, if you're European, check out the European Court of Human Rights, which offers protection against…
How would you formulate such a law? What does Germany's Telemedia Act actually say?
I can refuse to let you into my house if you won't show me your passport. If you don't have a passport, then I can just refuse to let you in no matter what. How does that change if I'm running a business? Or a web-site?
Surely it would be better to focus on supply rather than demand. If government ID is mandatory for everyone (e.g. Germany, Belgium), then it makes it easy for businesses to demand to see it. If government ID is entirely optional (e.g. UK) then insisting on seeing it will exclude too many potential customers.
If FB asks me for government-issued photo ID, then they will effectively be kicking me out - I'm not going to go through the rigmarole of applying for a passport just to get a FB log on.
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#17That actually happened to me at the beginning of the year. If I remember right I was in a foreign country (UK) (or just back from it) and Facebook asked me to log in and to scan my government ID (French one actually). However it was optional and there was a small link at the bottom of the page offering to skip that step (which i did without an hesitation).
Is there a difference here? I mean, can they still skip the step? The article does not say much. Anyway the design was made such that it was hard to know you could skip the step.
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#18With each passing day, I look less and less like a lunatic for avoiding facebook (and its ilk) like the plague. You should try it.
People think those who don't use Facebook are lunatics? Why?
Because it's supposedly antisocial behaviour as you don't follow the herd and it has been noted that high profile serial killers and mass murderers don't have facebook.
To me it's either people who can't be bothered or people who actually care, are knowledgeable enough and value their time and privacy.
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#19With each passing day, I look less and less like a lunatic for avoiding facebook (and its ilk) like the plague. You should try it.
People think those who don't use Facebook are lunatics? Why?
I feel like a lot of people don't realize just how omnipresent facebook is in places like college campuses. I personally know about four people who aren't on facebook. There's a whole sphere of social interaction that you can't be a part of if you're not on facebook.
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#20This is the page about verifying your account:
https://www.facebook.com/help/385569904840341
Facebook accepts any government-issued ID that contains name and date of birth. Examples include:
Birth certificate, Driver’s license, Passport, Marriage certificate, Official name change paperwork, Personal or vehicle insurance card, Non-driver's government ID (ex. disability, SNAP or national ID card), Green card, residence permit or immigration papers, Social Security card, Voter ID card
If you don't have a government-issued ID, Facebook will also accept two of the following items that combined must show name and date of birth. Examples include:
Bank statement, Bus card, Check, Credit card, Employment verification, Library card, Mail, Magazine subscription stub, Medical record, Membership ID (ex. pension card, union membership, working or professional ID), Paycheck stub, Permit, School card, School record, Utility bill, Yearbook photo (actual scan or photograph of the page in your yearbook), Please cover up any personal information we don't need to verify your identity (ex: credit card number, social security number).