The problem with low-carb diets is that most people use it as an excuse to consume animal products. A vegan low-carb diet is fine.
Sweden becomes the first country to reject low-fat diet dogma
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Re: Sweden becomes the first country to reject low-fat diet dogma
#12So when people say, "the science is decided," remember that science almost unanimously pushed high carb low fat diets for decades before people challenged it.
Re: Sweden becomes the first country to reject low-fat diet dogma
#13Fat is not the enemy. Fat that you eat can be converted handily into energy. An overabundance of carbs is the enemy! It's hilarious to me that people who think nothing of downing a 48 oz Dr Pepper, then getting a refill, after a dinner featuring potatoes, pasta, and bread will thumb their nose at having a 12 oz glass of whole milk. Those carbs, especially when consumed late in the day, go straight into fat. The nutri…
"Fat that you eat can be converted handily into energy" What is this supposed to mean? That an overabundance of carbs is bad, while an overabundance of fat isn't? This is getting ridiculous.
Re: Sweden becomes the first country to reject low-fat diet dogma
#14My wife and I have been on a very low carb / high fat diet for the last 4 months, and we have never felt better. Eating lots of eggs, bacon, steak, butter, some veggies and fruit. We both lost weight too. Also cut out processed food, sugar and grains — bread, pasta, rice, cereal — basically a ketogenic diet, which adapts the body to burning fat more readily. We both have also noticed that we just feel more mental cla…
>Eating lots of eggs, bacon, steak
The problem with that is that the consumption of animal products is unethical. You should consider switching to a vegan low-carb diet to decrease suffering.
Re: Sweden becomes the first country to reject low-fat diet dogma
#15This article misrepresents the underlying research and seems to invent some facts from whole cloth.
> Sweden has become the first Western nation to develop national dietary guidelines that reject the popular low-fat diet dogma in favor of low-carb high-fat nutrition advice.
Where is the evidence that Sweden has developed "national dietary guidelines"? All the sources link back to the paper [1][2] entitled "Dietary Treatment for Obesity". Clearly, dietary treatment for obesity is not the same as national dietary guidelines, and the conclusions of a paper are not the same as government policy.
Further, the paper found low-carb diets more effective for weight loss only in the first six months. Long term, it found no difference in the effectiveness of low-fat vs. low carb. To quote from google translate:
> In the long run there are no differences in efficacy between weight loss tips on strict and moderate carbohydrate diet, low-fat diets, högproteinkost, Mediterranean diet, diet focuses on low-glycemic load diet or a high proportion of monounsaturated fats.
Further, on the "diet doctor" website, under the section "Warnings Against LCHF Dismissed" [3], it quotes the study criticizing some studies that concluded low-carb diets are unhealthy for not adequately distinguishing between different classes of low-carb diets, specifically those high in fast-food and those not. This may be a valid criticism, but is not the same as endorsing the long-term health of a low-carb diet. The "diet doctor" concludes "We simply don’t know" about the long-term effects of various macronutrient compositions on health, which is fair, but this is a long way short of the national government of Sweden endorsing high-fat low-carb diets as unequivocally healthier than high-carb low-fat diets.
It may appear that I'm against low-carb diets; I'm not. I just think this is a very poor and misleading article.
[1] [pdf warning] http://www.sbu.se/upload/Publikationer/Content0/1/Mat_vid_fe...
[2] [google translation of conclusions] http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=sv&tl=en&prev...
[3] http://www.dietdoctor.com/swedish-expert-committee-low-carb-...
Re: Sweden becomes the first country to reject low-fat diet dogma
#16I would highly recommend watching the BBC documentary "The Men Who Made Us Fat". This reaches broadly the same conclusions. Fat is fairly innocuous, but the real danger food is Sugar, and artificial sweeteners tend to make things worse.
Why do artificial sweeteners make things worse?
Are 2 little sweetener pills in my coffee really worse than two cubes of sugar?
Re: Sweden becomes the first country to reject low-fat diet dogma
#17I've lost 48 pounds in the last 2 years (188 => 140) by simply cutting all carbs and most processed foods out of my diet. No change in habits, no additional exercise. My cholesterol, triglycerides, and blood were good to begin with, but are now EXCELLENT.
My typical day I eat 3-4 eggs, half avocado, 1/2lb of red meat/chicken/fish, 2 servings of greens, 1 serving of vegetables, 2-3 servings of cheese.
Never felt better. It is frustrating because people never believe me and just tell me that I have a fast metabolism.
Re: Sweden becomes the first country to reject low-fat diet dogma
#18Fat is not the enemy. Fat that you eat can be converted handily into energy. An overabundance of carbs is the enemy! It's hilarious to me that people who think nothing of downing a 48 oz Dr Pepper, then getting a refill, after a dinner featuring potatoes, pasta, and bread will thumb their nose at having a 12 oz glass of whole milk. Those carbs, especially when consumed late in the day, go straight into fat. The nutri…
"especially when consumed late in the day"
That's a myth.
Re: Sweden becomes the first country to reject low-fat diet dogma
#19My wife and I have been on a very low carb / high fat diet for the last 4 months, and we have never felt better. Eating lots of eggs, bacon, steak, butter, some veggies and fruit. We both lost weight too. Also cut out processed food, sugar and grains — bread, pasta, rice, cereal — basically a ketogenic diet, which adapts the body to burning fat more readily. We both have also noticed that we just feel more mental cla…
My wife and I are also on the keto diet; I attribute our success to /r/keto on reddit.
Re: Sweden becomes the first country to reject low-fat diet dogma
#20My wife and I have been on a very low carb / high fat diet for the last 4 months, and we have never felt better. Eating lots of eggs, bacon, steak, butter, some veggies and fruit. We both lost weight too. Also cut out processed food, sugar and grains — bread, pasta, rice, cereal — basically a ketogenic diet, which adapts the body to burning fat more readily. We both have also noticed that we just feel more mental cla…
>Eating lots of eggs, bacon, steak The problem with that is that the consumption of animal products is unethical. You should consider switching to a vegan low-carb diet to decrease suffering.
How much suffering am I going to reduce from a low carb vegan diet? How well does this diet work for someone like me who needs 3400 calories to build muscle?
Unethical is a strange term of eating animal products. I don't think this "ethical" diet is going to work for me.