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Did Shutting Down Silk Road Make the World a More Dangerous Place?

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Re: Did Shutting Down Silk Road Make the World a More Dangerous Place?

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Better to ask, has the war on drugs made the world a more dangerous place?

I wonder if there is anyone who believes - really believes - it has not. The war on drugs is kind of this diorama encapsulation of everything that is wrong with our politics, media, and society.

I suppose that's a rhetorical wondering. There's plenty of people who think the government can do no wrong, even here on HN.

Re: Did Shutting Down Silk Road Make the World a More Dangerous Place?

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post #6

Do News Story Headlines Always Have To Ask A Huge Rhetorical Question?

I like article titles with rhetorical questions because I don't need to read the article.

The answer is always "no", and you can keep doing what you were doing.

Re: Did Shutting Down Silk Road Make the World a More Dangerous Place?

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post #10

As the article itself said, successor sites are inevitable (and there are at least two that are thriving right now in SR's fallout). Those who prefer online black markets over physical transactions will simply migrate to the new marketplaces and consequently turn them into the "new Silk Road". The only true effect, perhaps, will be people taking security even more seriously. I read a statistic at some point that appr…

> 80% of SR users didn't use PGP I find this to be dubious. How does PGP relate to SR usage? When people communicated with SR vendors, did they use email (where PGP might matter) or did they use the SR software? Did their forum software allow people to sign their posts? How was this information sourced? Was there just an informal poll on their forums?

PGP isn't just for email. PGP can be used to sign and/or encrypt messages wherever you publish them.

PGP would be useful in ensuring that SR isn't tampering with your messages between any two parties on the site.

Re: Did Shutting Down Silk Road Make the World a More Dangerous Place?

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Did Silk Road even put a slight dent in street drug sellers in the first place? I would be surprised if street level sellers and buyers are internet savvy enough to use a service like this. SR looks more like the ideal system for savvy college students and young techs to specifically avoid the street level market.

Re: Did Shutting Down Silk Road Make the World a More Dangerous Place?

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As the article itself said, successor sites are inevitable (and there are at least two that are thriving right now in SR's fallout). Those who prefer online black markets over physical transactions will simply migrate to the new marketplaces and consequently turn them into the "new Silk Road". The only true effect, perhaps, will be people taking security even more seriously. I read a statistic at some point that appr…

I believe there were actually already competitors to the silk road long before this happened. Something called Atlantis Marketplace[0]?

Although that appears to have been shut down as well and perhaps absconded with users money[0].

If you go here[1] (reddit) you'll see postings for a "sheep marketplace".

I went to the silk road once. Definitely very interesting to check out. It's pretty amazing 1.2B dollars worth of transactions were concluded there.

All in all I'm totally against the drug war even if I don't feel the need to order meth or lsd online.

[0] - http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/26/4773902/shuttered-undergro...

[1] - http://www.reddit.com/r/atlantis/

Re: Did Shutting Down Silk Road Make the World a More Dangerous Place?

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post #7

Better to ask, has the war on drugs made the world a more dangerous place?

I wonder if there is anyone who believes - really believes - it has not. The war on drugs is kind of this diorama encapsulation of everything that is wrong with our politics, media, and society.

The war on drugs is certainly dangerous. Making anything illegal makes it dangerous because it invites both the violence of the state, plus the violence that occurs in the absence of the state. The question is whether the danger the war on drugs has created is worse that the danger of those drugs being legal. Fortunatly, we have a very nice test bed here in the United States where we did make a dangerous drug illegal and then legalized it again. It would be interesting to run those numbers...

Re: Did Shutting Down Silk Road Make the World a More Dangerous Place?

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Shutting it down certainly didn't help the US Post Office. Not a silk road user but being able to anonymously contract hitmen (and hitwomen) doesn't seem to make the world safer..

Yea, but to honest the Silk Road hitman business is probably like 10,000x smaller than the drug business - maybe more.
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