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The Fed has no choice but to hold them to term. The Fed's whole game is to continue keeping rates at zero by buying everything under the sun to the tune of $85 billion! per month. Selling, or even slowing the rate of purchasing, would do the opposite and raise rates.
They have choices. They have complete flexibility. They are under no pressure to do anything that isn't explicitly their goals. They want to control inflation and increase employment. If the economy starts to heat up and inflation starts to rise above their 2% target they will then have the option of selling bonds or raising the federal funds rate, the latter of which is more likely. I'm not really sure what you're t…
Warren Buffett compares US Fed to a hedge fund
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#12QE infinity is all about hiding the fact foreigners are exiting treasuries so the fed is the last resort buyer of USG debt. Without the fed backstopping, interest rates paid by the USG on its debt would have to go up which would very quickly crash the system.
Warren is just doing his patriotic duty to kick the can a little further down the road.
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The Fed bought toxic assets at way below par value. These bonds are giving off interest, but their underlying value is going up as well. They also bought equity in companies like GM and AIG (iirc) for fractions of what they are worth today. I think Buffet used the term "hedge fund" for dramatic effect rather than strict accuracy (since most of the public sees hedge funds as the epitomy of the investing money making d…
"their underlying value is going up as well" How can you tell? These are illiquid bonds that have no market. The Fed could say they're worth anything and there's no way to prove or disprove it. The only way to know is to offer them for sale and obviously that's the opposite to what the Fed is doing.
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#14"'The Fed is the greatest hedge fund in history, ... it's generating $80 billion or $90 billion a year probably' in revenue" Can you get more asinine than that? Probably? How is this relevant when the Fed is printing $85 BILLION a month to finance ongoing bond purchases? Guys like Buffet must absolutely love the Fed because they have an outlet to offload their illiquid garbage bonds and derivatives. Imagine if you ma…
It makes total sense for him to keep playing this game, because he benefits so fantastically from it. Everyone else should take what he says for what it is. The agenda is pretty loud and clear.
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The Fed can hold them to term. They are under no pressure to sell.
Holding them to term is actually a bit of a joke if you think about it. The Fed is buying bonds. The government is selling them. As long as the Fed keeps buying them, the government can keep selling them. If the Fed holds them to maturity, where will the money come from to pay back the mature bonds? From the government selling even more new bonds which the Fed will have to buy. It's not a Ponzi scheme or a pyramid sc…
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Holding them to term is actually a bit of a joke if you think about it. The Fed is buying bonds. The government is selling them. As long as the Fed keeps buying them, the government can keep selling them. If the Fed holds them to maturity, where will the money come from to pay back the mature bonds? From the government selling even more new bonds which the Fed will have to buy. It's not a Ponzi scheme or a pyramid sc…
The fed is buying bonds on the secondary market i.e not directly bidding and taking down auctions at treasury. This may sound minute but is a huge point. See http://pragcap.com/understanding-quantitative-easing
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The fed is buying bonds on the secondary market i.e not directly bidding and taking down auctions at treasury. This may sound minute but is a huge point. See http://pragcap.com/understanding-quantitative-easing
How is there any sort of difference? The effect of reducing the supply of treasury bonds in the market and increasing the supply of money in the economy is the same, regardless of whether the bond is removed from the open market at auction or from the secondary market.
*edit: IOER = Interest on excess reserves. See http://synthenomics.blogspot.com/2012/08/interest-on-excess-... for a good explanation
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#20So 80Bil on 1 Trillion, ie 8% yearly return. Thats a shitty hedge fund
I would not want to defend all of the fed's actions, though.