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Lifting the lid on the iOS 7 UIPicker

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Re: Lifting the lid on the iOS 7 UIPicker

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Post by kingnight »

RyanZAG wrote: post #5

> You’re also not able to tap the AM/PM or minute items to select them, which is completely inconsistent because you can tap the day and hour items! WAT Uh oh, that is a major red flag that the code behind this picker is one terrible mess. It implies that the code used for the time part of the picker is completely separate from the code for the date part.

Perhaps the right side of the picker which is closer to your resting thumb (for right handed people) was preserved to allow you to continue to scroll up/down since it's now an inline control.

Re: Lifting the lid on the iOS 7 UIPicker

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Post by turing »

cheald wrote: post #9
buro9 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I shouldn't worry, you should try Android's time picker. Consider a generation not used to the analogue wrist-watch, and give them a clock face with an outer 24-hour clock and an inner 12 hour clock, and then ask the user to select time using the tip of their finger, on a small phone screen, on the inner or outer circle to the hour and minute that they wish. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SK2ljlhHiCU/UaiEjF1lhGI/AAAAAAABJ…

Which picker/app is that? Here's the time picker in the Clock app (for setting alarms) on 4.3 (CM 10.2): http://i.imgur.com/KhhHul5.png

It's the time picker in the Calendar app. It was introduced in May: http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/29/google-calendar-for-andro...

Personally, I rather like the new time picker and have never experienced any usability problems. Also, the appearance depends on your time settings; the inner circle the parent poster mentions only appears if you use 24-hour time.

Re: Lifting the lid on the iOS 7 UIPicker

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Post by buro9 »

turing wrote: post #12
cheald wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which picker/app is that? Here's the time picker in the Clock app (for setting alarms) on 4.3 (CM 10.2): http://i.imgur.com/KhhHul5.png

It's the time picker in the Calendar app. It was introduced in May: http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/29/google-calendar-for-andro... Personally, I rather like the new time picker and have never experienced any usability problems. Also, the appearance depends on your time settings; the inner circle the parent poster mentions only appears if you use 24-hour time.

You know, it's the only time picker I see in Android. Such is my heavy use of Google Calendar.

Re: Lifting the lid on the iOS 7 UIPicker

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Post by weavie »

So, have Apple really cocked up this release, or is it just the bloggers going to town whenever they find some flaw and hacker news loves it when people find problems?

Am genuinely curious - I've boon obsoleted with my iPod 4 so can't find out for myself..

Re: Lifting the lid on the iOS 7 UIPicker

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Post by ChrisClark »

cheald wrote: post #9
buro9 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I shouldn't worry, you should try Android's time picker. Consider a generation not used to the analogue wrist-watch, and give them a clock face with an outer 24-hour clock and an inner 12 hour clock, and then ask the user to select time using the tip of their finger, on a small phone screen, on the inner or outer circle to the hour and minute that they wish. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SK2ljlhHiCU/UaiEjF1lhGI/AAAAAAABJ…

Which picker/app is that? Here's the time picker in the Clock app (for setting alarms) on 4.3 (CM 10.2): http://i.imgur.com/KhhHul5.png

Yeah, that time picker is awesome. All the other apps need to use this one, especially Calendar.

Re: Lifting the lid on the iOS 7 UIPicker

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Post by buro9 »

ChrisClark wrote: post #15
cheald wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which picker/app is that? Here's the time picker in the Clock app (for setting alarms) on 4.3 (CM 10.2): http://i.imgur.com/KhhHul5.png

Yeah, that time picker is awesome. All the other apps need to use this one, especially Calendar.

Yup. That's all I want.

Re: Lifting the lid on the iOS 7 UIPicker

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Post by potatolicious »

weavie wrote: post #14

So, have Apple really cocked up this release, or is it just the bloggers going to town whenever they find some flaw and hacker news loves it when people find problems? Am genuinely curious - I've boon obsoleted with my iPod 4 so can't find out for myself..

A bit of both. It's a massive redesign, not all of it is well executed, and there's substantial performance degradation in some parts. There are also a larger than usual number of major bugs that shipped with the final.

None of it is the-sky-is-falling material though. There are some bugs that will drive devs up the wall (especially when they end up getting fixed later and break the workarounds), and the lack of optimization in some components will put limits on their use, but nothing particularly game-ending.

In summary: not a disaster, but less polished in general than previous iOS releases at this stage.

Side note: I noticed this time that there was a lot less Apple engineer engagement on the dev forums. Couple that with the number of polish bugs (see: the Sloppy UI blog from yesterday) and you'd get the impression that the iOS team was stretched severely to get this out the door. Hope they're all getting some much-needed downtime.

Re: Lifting the lid on the iOS 7 UIPicker

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Post by soci »

I believe the Date Picker is something Apple will fix for sure. It's just not their style and culture to do things difficult for the user.

However, there's one major pain I got with the new UI I'd like to share. The new passcode lock screen is also much different than before, and this for me was a BIG problem at the beginning.

Surprisingly when I saw the passcode screen for the first time in iOS7 I absolutely forgot which was my code and therefore I could not unlock the phone. Try after try the phone puts it more difficult for you to enter new code combinations by not letting you try again after failed attempts. So I had an unusable phone for many hours in a row. I was in anger, how could I have forgot a that?

I discovered that the passcode code was something I had buried in my subconscious. Before the upgrade, I could type the code even when I was completely asleep at 3AM in the morning without even thinking, never failed in all this years.

Typing the code was a sort of reflex action for me. But the different lock screen UI made me absolutely impossible to perform it again. The code was not in my memory.

After several tries, and several hours, I met with my wife and she told me my own code so I could finally regain access to my phone.

Now the pin code is back to my memory and not my subconscious.

Anyone else had this sort of problem?

Re: Lifting the lid on the iOS 7 UIPicker

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Post by masklinn »

turing wrote: post #12
cheald wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which picker/app is that? Here's the time picker in the Clock app (for setting alarms) on 4.3 (CM 10.2): http://i.imgur.com/KhhHul5.png

It's the time picker in the Calendar app. It was introduced in May: http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/29/google-calendar-for-andro... Personally, I rather like the new time picker and have never experienced any usability problems. Also, the appearance depends on your time settings; the inner circle the parent poster mentions only appears if you use 24-hour time.

> the inner circle the parent poster mentions only appears if you use 24-hour time.

Which is only the vast majority of the world (about half a dozen countries use 12h clocks as a standard in written form).

(as it turns out, that means the vast majority of the world won't give a fig about the AM/PM selector being broken, the touch targets are a much bigger issue)

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