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“Close to 10% of the papers we receive show some sign of academic misconduct”

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Half the plagiarism violations are "self-plagiarism", which I assume means copying from your own previously published works. Hardly seems like such an ethical problem to copy from yourself except of course if you're paid by the word.

It increases the amount of crap out there, plus it pads the CV

This is a huge issue. When you slog through 5 papers someone has written and keep getting a deja vu feeling it really sucks.

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I've said as much in the article comments, but it's worth repeating here: there's really no surprise that this sort of thing happens when more than a million articles are published every year. There is so much pressure on researchers to publish. I really do think the way to solve this sort of problem is to find ways to give researchers credit for other forms of contributions. This is what figshare is doing with datas…

For Computer Science Ph.D.'s, I think you should get credit for writing code.

Either production-quality open source code, or pedagogical code. I'm looking at the Stanford Pintos kernel and MIT xv6 kernel. While there were minor papers from those projects, I think they were more like a labor of love. When you consider the coding effort, those projects probably took 10x the effort than a typical paper.

But yeah it would be better if a little more time was spent on code vs. papers.

I actually attended a talk from an Adobe researcher talking about software abstractions some years ago. He advocated that you should be able to get a Ph.D. for finding a good abstraction, e.g. for say modeling a paint brush or something. There are lots of bad ways to write code but only a few good ones. Even better would be to write it in a way so that other people can actually learn from it.

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Half the plagiarism violations are "self-plagiarism", which I assume means copying from your own previously published works. Hardly seems like such an ethical problem to copy from yourself except of course if you're paid by the word.

It's an ethical problem when you certify that you haven't done exactly that.

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I've said as much in the article comments, but it's worth repeating here: there's really no surprise that this sort of thing happens when more than a million articles are published every year. There is so much pressure on researchers to publish. I really do think the way to solve this sort of problem is to find ways to give researchers credit for other forms of contributions. This is what figshare is doing with datas…

the publish-or-perish rat race is one of many factors degrading academia. Couple that with steadily declining numbers of tenure-track faculty, making the glut of PhD students and early career faculty ever more desperate to pull all the stops to secure a meaningful career, and it really shouldn't be surprising to see a lot of misconduct. People are desperate.

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I've said as much in the article comments, but it's worth repeating here: there's really no surprise that this sort of thing happens when more than a million articles are published every year. There is so much pressure on researchers to publish. I really do think the way to solve this sort of problem is to find ways to give researchers credit for other forms of contributions. This is what figshare is doing with datas…

For Computer Science Ph.D.'s, I think you should get credit for writing code. Either production-quality open source code, or pedagogical code. I'm looking at the Stanford Pintos kernel and MIT xv6 kernel. While there were minor papers from those projects, I think they were more like a labor of love. When you consider the coding effort, those projects probably took 10x the effort than a typical paper. But yeah it woul…

I'm not sure you can really write production quality code in a Ph.D., because that requires a production environment, which just isn't available in academia, and also because writing such code conflicts with research goals.

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Half the plagiarism violations are "self-plagiarism", which I assume means copying from your own previously published works. Hardly seems like such an ethical problem to copy from yourself except of course if you're paid by the word.

I felt a little uneasy reading this in the article. I write CS conference papers that are all in the same area, so obviously, some of the background information (which is a pretty small part of the overall paper) is basically copied from paper to paper. And that part is the most polished.

I don't feel uneasy because I'm doing anything remotely unethical---I'm not. I feel uneasy because it sounded a bit like the description in this article was over-broadly defining self-plagarism.

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I've said as much in the article comments, but it's worth repeating here: there's really no surprise that this sort of thing happens when more than a million articles are published every year. There is so much pressure on researchers to publish. I really do think the way to solve this sort of problem is to find ways to give researchers credit for other forms of contributions. This is what figshare is doing with datas…

For Computer Science Ph.D.'s, I think you should get credit for writing code. Either production-quality open source code, or pedagogical code. I'm looking at the Stanford Pintos kernel and MIT xv6 kernel. While there were minor papers from those projects, I think they were more like a labor of love. When you consider the coding effort, those projects probably took 10x the effort than a typical paper. But yeah it woul…

Part of being a scientist is learning how to communicate your results. And anyway, writing is required for good thinking.

As a PhD student implementor, yes, my theory colleagues get way more publications than I hypothetically could even if I were a better student than I am. That makes it hard to get an academic job, but otherwise doesn't matter too much.

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On a vaguely related note, I know of a crystallographer who would send out Christmas cards every year that looked like postcards with a partial, yet to be published, crystal structure as the image. One year, one of the crystallographers he sent the card out to figured out which protein it was, reconstructed the density map (partially from his own data on the same molecule, partially from the solved structure on the c…

sounds like a good fairy tale. are you claiming he phased data he had already using the model in the postcard? seems unlikely.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It increases the amount of crap out there, plus it pads the CV

This is a huge issue. When you slog through 5 papers someone has written and keep getting a deja vu feeling it really sucks.

Not to mention when your deja vu is of deja vu.

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Half the plagiarism violations are "self-plagiarism", which I assume means copying from your own previously published works. Hardly seems like such an ethical problem to copy from yourself except of course if you're paid by the word.

It's funny that self-plagiarism is the offense he cites most. One of the things that drives me crazy about the current system is how much time is wasted in that largish section called the Introduction. On the one hand, it's my favorite section to write since it provides the most leeway for prose over the dry, wanky obfuscation that are the remainders of most papers… but still, every time I write one, I wish I could just include a damn link to any one of the N review papers out there, or even a wikipedia page.
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