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Re: 1 line CSS Grid Framework

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Post by antidaily » Tue, Jun 02, 2009, 1:12 PM UTC

ryanvm wrote: post #3

That people have to resort to such creative contortions is a testament to what a shit pile CSS is.

creative contortions = hacking.

Re: 1 line CSS Grid Framework

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Post by axod » Tue, Jun 02, 2009, 1:18 PM UTC

yan wrote: post #5

Isn't it a stretch to call this a "framework"? I guess "frameworks" are the "startups" of the CSS world.

It's only a matter of time before we see a story of a VC funding a "CSS framework startup". After all, we've had bit.ly.

Re: 1 line CSS Grid Framework

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Post by jrrl » Tue, Jun 02, 2009, 1:31 PM UTC

Need to change it be based on phi.

Re: 1 line CSS Grid Framework

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Post by Hexstream » Tue, Jun 02, 2009, 1:44 PM UTC

I thought it was undefined to put block elements in inline elements? You can't put a block element in an inline element but you can put a block element B2 in a block element B1 and then apply display:inline to the B1 element and not get undefined semantics?

Re: 1 line CSS Grid Framework

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Post by enneff » Tue, Jun 02, 2009, 2:01 PM UTC

jdp wrote: post #9

yan wrote: post #5

Isn't it a stretch to call this a "framework"? I guess "frameworks" are the "startups" of the CSS world.

It's definitely a stretch, but most things that are clever are

What's so clever about it though? I thought it an obvious approach, and not very useful.

Re: 1 line CSS Grid Framework

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Post by gamache » Tue, Jun 02, 2009, 2:13 PM UTC

burke wrote: post #6

ryanvm wrote: post #3

That people have to resort to such creative contortions is a testament to what a shit pile CSS is.

CSS is perfectly fine for what it was designed for. Unfortunately, when it was being designed, tables were still viewed as perfectly acceptable for layout, and as far as I can tell, CSS didn't really aim to replace it. It seems to me that it was us OCD designers that wanted semantic markup who adopted CSS for layout, where sane people would use tables. (EDIT: I should probably clarify that this is 100% speculation, a…

No, CSS is not "perfectly fine for what it was designed for", even if we disregard that it sucks at layout. It's only better than what came before it. It's been over a decade, and we don't even have good layout features or named constants. Of course, CSS's inadequacy is only compounded by the persistent standards noncompliance of certain major web browsers. But call a spade a spade; CSS ain't that great. If it were, we'd all leave tables for tabular data.

Re: 1 line CSS Grid Framework

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Post by scorxn » Tue, Jun 02, 2009, 2:30 PM UTC

The point of CSS is to separate presentation from markup. This approach uses a hierarchy of divs to define presentation. If that's alright with you, may as well use tables.

Re: 1 line CSS Grid Framework

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Post by noodle » Tue, Jun 02, 2009, 2:39 PM UTC

yan wrote: post #5

Isn't it a stretch to call this a "framework"? I guess "frameworks" are the "startups" of the CSS world.

i think it might be meant at least a little tongue-in-cheek.

Re: 1 line CSS Grid Framework

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Post by erlanger » Tue, Jun 02, 2009, 2:48 PM UTC

I hope I never have to edit layouts coded like this. It would take me back to '99.

Re: 1 line CSS Grid Framework

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Post by Raphael » Tue, Jun 02, 2009, 2:53 PM UTC

Hexstream wrote: post #14

I thought it was undefined to put block elements in inline elements? You can't put a block element in an inline element but you can put a block element B2 in a block element B1 and then apply display:inline to the B1 element and not get undefined semantics?

float sets the display back to block. display: inline is for an IE bug.