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Older versions of IE show a much stronger dropoff in usage over the weekend

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Re: Older versions of IE show a much stronger dropoff in usage over the weekend

#11

The title needs an asterisk. Because I unfortunately have the privilege of knowing an older gentleman that purposely uses IE6 on Windows XP. He calls the concept of tabs useless rubbish. And I'm not talking a regular consumer, I'm talking someone who develops actual software.

In his opinion about tabs, he is in good company [1], though the company in question prefers Safari rather than IE 6 :)

[1] http://www.jwz.org/blog/2012/04/why-i-use-safari-instead-of-...

Re: Older versions of IE show a much stronger dropoff in usage over the weekend

#12

It's been my (unfortunate) experience that most enterprise / corporate environments lock down users machines heavily in the name of security. And with that goes the ability of the user to upgrade their browser. Oftentimes the reason is that there are old internal web applications which don't work in newer versions of IE / look rubbish in newer versions of IE. It's a pain. And it looks like the death of XP won't mean…

> [...] lock down users machines heavily in the name of security

And because the browsers aren't the more recent versions with more recent bug fixes, it may actually increase vulnerabilities, making things LESS secure.

Re: Older versions of IE show a much stronger dropoff in usage over the weekend

#13

The title needs an asterisk. Because I unfortunately have the privilege of knowing an older gentleman that purposely uses IE6 on Windows XP. He calls the concept of tabs useless rubbish. And I'm not talking a regular consumer, I'm talking someone who develops actual software.

anecdotes don't justify asterisks

Re: Older versions of IE show a much stronger dropoff in usage over the weekend

#14

The title needs an asterisk. Because I unfortunately have the privilege of knowing an older gentleman that purposely uses IE6 on Windows XP. He calls the concept of tabs useless rubbish. And I'm not talking a regular consumer, I'm talking someone who develops actual software.

anecdotes don't justify asterisks

Actually, you'll find that while a single anecdote doesn't provide evidence for a general theory, it does provide enough of a counter-example to disprove a statement.

How can it be the case that nobody uses old IE by choice, if at least one person does?

Re: Older versions of IE show a much stronger dropoff in usage over the weekend

#15
And from a startup point of view, legacy IE means Enterprises, Enterprise means big price tags:

1) Because they are Enterprises.

2) Because nobody wants to support those browsers.

If you think it's a declining market that'll be dead in 18 months, we have contracts to support IE 6 until 2019, not to mention 7 and 8.

Re: Older versions of IE show a much stronger dropoff in usage over the weekend

#17
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

anecdotes don't justify asterisks

Actually, you'll find that while a single anecdote doesn't provide evidence for a general theory, it does provide enough of a counter-example to disprove a statement. How can it be the case that nobody uses old IE by choice, if at least one person does?

overly literal

Re: Older versions of IE show a much stronger dropoff in usage over the weekend

#18
post #12

It's been my (unfortunate) experience that most enterprise / corporate environments lock down users machines heavily in the name of security. And with that goes the ability of the user to upgrade their browser. Oftentimes the reason is that there are old internal web applications which don't work in newer versions of IE / look rubbish in newer versions of IE. It's a pain. And it looks like the death of XP won't mean…

> [...] lock down users machines heavily in the name of security And because the browsers aren't the more recent versions with more recent bug fixes, it may actually increase vulnerabilities, making things LESS secure.

Just because the lock-down was in the name of security doesn't mean that it's going actually help improve it...

Re: Older versions of IE show a much stronger dropoff in usage over the weekend

#19
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

anecdotes don't justify asterisks

Actually, you'll find that while a single anecdote doesn't provide evidence for a general theory, it does provide enough of a counter-example to disprove a statement. How can it be the case that nobody uses old IE by choice, if at least one person does?

The 'nobody' in the title is used figuratively for emphasis. The point of the link is to raise the issue for discussion, not to provide scientific proof that no one uses older versions of IE by choice.
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