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Microsoft Wins Trial on Google’s Patent Licensing Tactics

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Re: Microsoft Wins Trial on Google’s Patent Licensing Tactics

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FOSS Patents on this: http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/09/jury-quickly-reaches-verd... (Usual disclaimer: You can agree or disagree with him, but he provides a useful factual context for the decision.)

> he provides a useful factual context for the decision

Ugh, no he doesn't. The very first thing he states is wrong. A jury ruling does not establish case law.

He really is just a self-aggrandizing pundit, and even if he wasn't terrible, he'd still be a pundit. He's even gotten worse over time, as half of each of his articles now is just pointing out how the weasel words he used to describe upcoming cases in previous posts turned out to be totally true. Who on earth cares that the damages turned out to be relatively small, but hey, earlier he wrote that the monetary amount didn't matter?

Don't give him link juice. The OP Bloomberg article contains a large amount of context for the case.

Re: Microsoft Wins Trial on Google’s Patent Licensing Tactics

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Do no evil. Google exploring borderline evil tactics.

This lawsuit was based on events from a year before the Google acquisition. I'm not saying Google is good or bad, but this isn't evidence of either.

...and yet Google vows to appeal right in the article.

Re: Microsoft Wins Trial on Google’s Patent Licensing Tactics

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Motorola Mobility didn’t act in good faith when it demanded patent royalties from Microsoft Corp

Duh! Nothing in these lawsuits is in good faith, all is done to screw the other side. MS got lucky Motorola played it dumb and lost. Asking 2.25% of the sale price just for a small portion of one feature takes b-lls. Being FRAND patents and all, no one forced Motorola to add their patents to standards.

U.S. District Judge James Robart, who presided over the trial, determined in April that the appropriate royalty rate was about a half-cent per unit for video-decoding technology and 3 1/2 cents for wireless technology. Microsoft said that would equal about $1.8 million a year.

Is this legally binding, assuming it's held on appeal?

Re: Microsoft Wins Trial on Google’s Patent Licensing Tactics

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FOSS Patents on this: http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/09/jury-quickly-reaches-verd... (Usual disclaimer: You can agree or disagree with him, but he provides a useful factual context for the decision.)

> he provides a useful factual context for the decision Ugh, no he doesn't. The very first thing he states is wrong. A jury ruling does not establish case law. He really is just a self-aggrandizing pundit, and even if he wasn't terrible, he'd still be a pundit. He's even gotten worse over time, as half of each of his articles now is just pointing out how the weasel words he used to describe upcoming cases in previous…

> Who on earth cares that the damages turned out to be relatively small, but hey, earlier he wrote that the monetary amount didn't matter?

Well, actually he said the legal implications will matter more than the money, so that's something reasonably vague that he can point to later on if something fits that description and say, "see, I told you so."

Similarly he didn't say "this jury ruling will create case law". It's worded a lot more indirectly than that.

All his articles are like that, with lots of little predictions hedged by weasel words. As such, with all that hedging he ends up appearing to be right frequently, and he never misses a chance to link to any previous posts where "he had said so before".

But because he's careful to always hedge his bets, I find him to be more accurate than most pundits out there, who make bold claims and are either surprisingly correct or, more likely, end up eating claim chowder.

What annoys me more is the hard-on he has for Google -- the "Google micromanaged" Motorola Mobility division? Really?

Re: Microsoft Wins Trial on Google’s Patent Licensing Tactics

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Do no evil. Google exploring borderline evil tactics.

What is evil about a high opening bid? Especially when it has been the standard official royalty rate of Motorola for years..

An impossibly high "opening bid" is not an opening bid at all, it's a threat. It says, "sure we said FRAND, but now that it's in the standard we changed our mind, now empty your pockets". Extortion is evil.

Re: Microsoft Wins Trial on Google’s Patent Licensing Tactics

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is evil about a high opening bid? Especially when it has been the standard official royalty rate of Motorola for years..

An impossibly high "opening bid" is not an opening bid at all, it's a threat. It says, "sure we said FRAND, but now that it's in the standard we changed our mind, now empty your pockets". Extortion is evil.

Oh poor little Microsoft, being extorted by a single piece of paper from big bad Motorola.

This is one of the most pathetic things I've ever heard.

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