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Analog photography is dead. Long live analog photography

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Re: Analog photography is dead. Long live analog photography

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That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen ... speaking as someone who used to spend hours and hours as a kid in the 1980s in our garage, making prints in our home-made darkroom. If one is already going to go to the trouble of printing on photographic paper in a darkroom, then why not just go out and get a real enlarger, a real film camera and use real negative film? The quality will be so much better. Also y…

Why the hate? I too used to make my own prints, not at home since we didn't have the equipment or a spare room that could be darken, but at school.

I still have lots of paper from that time -- certainly useless by now.

I think this is kind of cool though; the big difference with a real film camera is that you get to do it picture by picture.

On a film camera you have to expose a whole roll of film, then process it, then go back and see what shot you want to develop (which is not easy if you only have the film; I used to order small prints to help me choose which pictures I wanted to print myself).

With this, you can go ahead and print the picture you just took.

Will the quality be a little crappy? Probably. But it's a toy! What's wrong with toys? Would you complain that your kid's toy car doesn't have a real gas-powered engine?

Re: Analog photography is dead. Long live analog photography

#12
This is so goddam stupid.

"Because you can" does not mean "you should ever" create, sell, or buy such a thing.

Maybe if the iPhone screen had an 8K screen, it could be interesting. But come on.

Why don't we photocopy ourselves, take a picture of that, and fax it instead?

Re: Analog photography is dead. Long live analog photography

#13
post #8

That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen ... speaking as someone who used to spend hours and hours as a kid in the 1980s in our garage, making prints in our home-made darkroom. If one is already going to go to the trouble of printing on photographic paper in a darkroom, then why not just go out and get a real enlarger, a real film camera and use real negative film? The quality will be so much better. Also y…

What are you referring to with audio there? The current trend for colour vinyl pressings of music made on laptops?

Probably the obsession with vinyl records "sounding warmer".

Re: Analog photography is dead. Long live analog photography

#14
post #9

I used to own a B&W enlarger and made prints from my own negatives. I remember the bulb in the enlarger having significantly more power (photons emitted/sec) than a smart phone display has. I wonder by how much this will increase exposure times, and if it works at all...

I'm not sure that's true of all enlargers. The one I used in school was quite dim; the brightness of my iPhone screen would definitely out power it.

Re: Analog photography is dead. Long live analog photography

#15
Who is this for?

Any serious photographer would not want this as the results are going to be complete crap.

Any casual photographer would not want this because it does nothing to get their shitty photos onto Facebook.

The only people who would like this would be pseudo-intellectual hipsters who think they are "keeping it old school". This is a scene straight out of Portlandia. Let's open an "artisanal" cupcake shop that makes everything in an original, 1963 Hasbro Easy-Bake Oven!

Re: Analog photography is dead. Long live analog photography

#17
Wow, A casual reader might get confused with these comments and think that HN means Haters News.

Here we have a product that a curious person (like myself) interested in learning how photography used to work would buy in a heartbeat, and still the top three comments (as I write) are " Who is this for?", "This is so goddam stupid." and "That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen".

If these guys are doing this is because they would buy it. It doesn't matter if the size of their potential market is ridiculously small, it is still a market and they want to test it. There is no need to verbally destroy somebody else ideas.

Sometimes we should keep in mind that phrase : "If you don't have any positive thing to say, don't say anything"

Re: Analog photography is dead. Long live analog photography

#18
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you referring to with audio there? The current trend for colour vinyl pressings of music made on laptops?

Probably the obsession with vinyl records "sounding warmer".

They do sound warmer. This is undisputed. Same applies (even more) to magnetic recording tape.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distortion#Harmonic_distortion

As the word "distortion" in that link implies, where audiophiles go wrong is confusing "nicer" with "better."

70s dub-reggae records and the like would undoubtably sound worse if they were recorded straight to digital and pressed to CD. Similarly, lots of 21st century music would lose its edge if it were printed to tape and pressed to vinyl.

Most of this confusion stems from audiophiles borrowing terms and ideas from music engineers and artists, much like the neverending stream of badness from managers/MBAs taking ideas and terms they don't understand from engineers.

If you are listening to music, it is none of your business to decide that it needs to be "warmer." The people who made the record spent a lot of time and effort making it exactly as warm as they wanted it to be. Pushing it through a tube amp to make it warmer before you listen to it is like retouching a Monet print in photoshop before you hang it on your wall. As you can imagine, I'm not a fan of the EQ settings on ipods either.

When optimising your playback system, go for maximum transparency, and stop there. If you don't like how the record sounds, listen to better records.

If you're making records OTOH, it is entirely proper for you to be worrying endlessly about "warmth". Buy up crazy 70s gear from ebay, have the track pressed to 60g vinyl at a boutique german cutting house, whatever it takes. Warmth is tricky :)

Re: Analog photography is dead. Long live analog photography

#19
Not commenting on the article, just want to comment on the title for a sec.

"The King is dead, long live the king!" is a special phrase used only when a ruler is dead and there is an immediate and available heir to assume the throne. It implies uninterrupted line of accession.

"Analog photography is dead, long live analog photography" is not a correct usage of this phrase. A better way to phrase it would be : "Photography is dead, long live photography!" Implying that the old way is dead (analog) but the new way (digital) will immediately succeed it.

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