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'I am Chelsea Manning,' says jailed soldier formerly known as Bradley

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Re: 'I am Chelsea Manning,' says jailed soldier formerly known as Bradley

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Hopefully this thread won't degenerate into anti-transgender comments like so many others today. Obviously Manning has needed mental health treatment for quite some time. Hopefully he can get what he needs while in prison. It's just too bad that prison is where he has to go to get help.

I don't see how the taxpayers should pay for this. One of the reasons the comments are so negative is because it feels like a smokescreen and/or a last attempt at sympathy. I don't care if he wants to become a girl, but he should wait until his/her time is served. I wonder if military prisons are monitored/protected any better than civilian prisons when it comes to that 'other' stuff.

Manning preferred to be female well before the leaks or the trial. Also, the Army/taxpayers are paying for Manning's housing, food, clothes, and therapy even outside of prison.

Re: 'I am Chelsea Manning,' says jailed soldier formerly known as Bradley

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"It's just too bad that prison is where he has to go to get help." Why do you say that? Before now, he[she] lived a life, with plenty of opportunities to get help, or help him[her]self.

He acted out while in the Army, obviously behaving in a way that showed his superiors that he needed help, yet they did nothing. He was even busted back down to PFC from SPC. Yet, they put him back on the job. On top of that, he was living in the "don't ask don't tell" world of the military at the time, risking discharge for admitting that he was gay. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Manning#Deployment_to_...

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Re: 'I am Chelsea Manning,' says jailed soldier formerly known as Bradley

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Hopefully this thread won't degenerate into anti-transgender comments like so many others today. Obviously Manning has needed mental health treatment for quite some time. Hopefully he can get what he needs while in prison. It's just too bad that prison is where he has to go to get help.

s/he/she

Re: 'I am Chelsea Manning,' says jailed soldier formerly known as Bradley

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post #2

Hopefully this thread won't degenerate into anti-transgender comments like so many others today. Obviously Manning has needed mental health treatment for quite some time. Hopefully he can get what he needs while in prison. It's just too bad that prison is where he has to go to get help.

I don't see how the taxpayers should pay for this. One of the reasons the comments are so negative is because it feels like a smokescreen and/or a last attempt at sympathy. I don't care if he wants to become a girl, but he should wait until his/her time is served. I wonder if military prisons are monitored/protected any better than civilian prisons when it comes to that 'other' stuff.

s/he/she s/his/her

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Hopefully this thread won't degenerate into anti-transgender comments like so many others today. Obviously Manning has needed mental health treatment for quite some time. Hopefully he can get what he needs while in prison. It's just too bad that prison is where he has to go to get help.

I don't see how the taxpayers should pay for this. One of the reasons the comments are so negative is because it feels like a smokescreen and/or a last attempt at sympathy. I don't care if he wants to become a girl, but he should wait until his/her time is served. I wonder if military prisons are monitored/protected any better than civilian prisons when it comes to that 'other' stuff.

Nonsense. His point of view is that a women is not what he wants to become, but what he is. He just wants to be recognized as one.

Also, I don't really see where there is spending involved. Even if there were, the amount would be insignificant to even care about. There is much more waste elsewhere in the system.

Last but not least, this guy shouldn't even be serving the sentence he is.

Re: 'I am Chelsea Manning,' says jailed soldier formerly known as Bradley

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I find this news extremely disturbing, why make such an announcement with a posed photo the day after his sentencing?

The defense released that photo during his (her) trial, and used his (her) gender identity issues as part of their case during his (her) trial. I don't think that this is really breaking news.

s/his/her

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

He acted out while in the Army, obviously behaving in a way that showed his superiors that he needed help, yet they did nothing. He was even busted back down to PFC from SPC. Yet, they put him back on the job. On top of that, he was living in the "don't ask don't tell" world of the military at the time, risking discharge for admitting that he was gay. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Manning#Deployment_to_...

He was not born in the Army, mate.

s/he/she

Re: 'I am Chelsea Manning,' says jailed soldier formerly known as Bradley

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"It's just too bad that prison is where he has to go to get help." Why do you say that? Before now, he[she] lived a life, with plenty of opportunities to get help, or help him[her]self.

He acted out while in the Army, obviously behaving in a way that showed his superiors that he needed help, yet they did nothing. He was even busted back down to PFC from SPC. Yet, they put him back on the job. On top of that, he was living in the "don't ask don't tell" world of the military at the time, risking discharge for admitting that he was gay. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Manning#Deployment_to_...

s/he/she s/him/her
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