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Re: Yahoo tops Google in US traffic

#11

I don't doubt that Yahoo has a shit load of traffic still, but unless Alexa/Quantcast/ComScore/Compete/Nielsen or any of these other so-called 'web traffic measurement services' have direct access to Yahoo and Google's traffic data (they don't), I'd take these all with a grain of salt. These services have never been accurate. http://moz.com/blog/testing-accuracy-visitor-data-alexa-comp...

One of those things is not like the other.

Go to yahoo.com, open devtools/firebug, scour the network tab for "b.scorecardresearch.com", that's comscore. These numbers are as accurate as can be.

Re: Yahoo tops Google in US traffic

#12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From - comscore.com/Insights/Press_Releases/2009/5/comScore_Announced_Media_Metrix_360 "The new approach combines person-level measurement from comScore's proprietary 2 million person global panel with Web site server metrics in order to account for 100 percent of a Web site's audience." It's possible that Yahoo and Google are providing server metrics via javascript tagging to comScore. That would give them direct ac…

"It's possible that Yahoo and Google are providing server metrics via javascript tagging to comScore." Your suggestion is essentially that Yahoo and Google are providing non-public data from which revenue growth/etc can almost be calculated, to outside companies?

The incentive is ad dollars. Ad companies want third party verification.

Re: Yahoo tops Google in US traffic

#14
post #11

I don't doubt that Yahoo has a shit load of traffic still, but unless Alexa/Quantcast/ComScore/Compete/Nielsen or any of these other so-called 'web traffic measurement services' have direct access to Yahoo and Google's traffic data (they don't), I'd take these all with a grain of salt. These services have never been accurate. http://moz.com/blog/testing-accuracy-visitor-data-alexa-comp...

One of those things is not like the other. Go to yahoo.com, open devtools/firebug, scour the network tab for "b.scorecardresearch.com", that's comscore. These numbers are as accurate as can be.

The numbers for Yahoo may be accurate. What about Google and all the others on the list? When I go to Google, I see no "b.scorecardresearch" anywhere to be found on my network tab.

Re: Yahoo tops Google in US traffic

#15
I "Google" less and less for search results, as they become increasingly crap. They are mostly best for "big name" items; also, the prominence of StackOverflow means that some computer technology queries still work pretty well.

These days, I'm fortunate when I know specifically enough what I want that I can jump straight into Wikipedia and hopefully find an adequate page.

Whatever you are and aren't doing about it, Google, whenever I search for something detailed that's not in StackOverflow, your results are increasingly crap, once again. Pages and pages full of very spammy results.

Some time ago -- perhaps a few years ago or a bit more -- I became accustomed to fairly quickly paging several pages into the search results, where the heaviest, highly ranked spam would start to filter out and I could start to recognize more legitimate sources of information. These days... the spam results just go on and one. If there's quality somewhere in the search results, it's beyond the limit of my patience to continue paging forward and scanning.

Not that I'm using Yahoo, in preference. That part... all I can think of is measuring by byte counts, and buttloads of banner ads. Probably not the right explanation, but...

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P.S. Your (Google, again) elimination of the + operator in your search queries was, again anecdotally, another factor in the declining performance of your searches for me. Being able to tell the query engine that I definitely don't want to see results that don't include term x frequently proved quite useful. Now... the damned thing shows me "whatever it feels like", whether I quote terms, beg,.... any other suggestions?

Re: Yahoo tops Google in US traffic

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"It's possible that Yahoo and Google are providing server metrics via javascript tagging to comScore." Your suggestion is essentially that Yahoo and Google are providing non-public data from which revenue growth/etc can almost be calculated, to outside companies?

The incentive is ad dollars. Ad companies want third party verification.

Google runs all their own advertising. They have no need for third party verification.

Re: Yahoo tops Google in US traffic

#19
I've been experimenting with DuckDuckGo and I must say, I'm finding what I'm looking for pretty quickly (minus junk results) in the first few results. Their WolframAlpha results are actually pretty good too. I hope they can move into image searching that isn't dependent on Google or Bing though.

I'm still curious as to what criteria they used to differentiate Yahoo traffic under "Yahoo! Sites" though. Did they also include Flickr and other acquisitions as well? (Tumblr seems to be on its own still)

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