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Re: JavaScript Strategies at Microsoft with Scott Hanselman

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Post by shanselman » Sat, Aug 17, 2013, 3:36 PM UTC

mattmanser wrote: post #8

vyrotek wrote: post #7

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Very empty indeed. You can create your own templates too!

Have you done it? Because I have and it's a right palava and then if, like me, you actually have 4 or 5 different machines good luck on keeping them in sync. And with the release cycle on VS & MVC being as it is you have to redo them every year. And I start maybe 4 projects a year... Really, really not worth it. Ofc, excluding the 150 console apps I make a year. They only thing I do actually do is switch the console…

Creating your templates isn't that hard. There's an export template item under the File Menu. We're also making it so next year or so you'll be able to import custom templates with NuGet.

That said, I'm sorry you had a bad experience. For most, you'll want to File | New Empty, then:

install-package jquery install-package modernier install-package angularjs

I disagree with your frustration about deleting references. You hit delete a few times or uninstall packages and the move on.

BTW: ScriptCS is a nice REPL to check out: http://www.hanselman.com/blog/ProjectlessScriptedCWithScript...

Re: JavaScript Strategies at Microsoft with Scott Hanselman

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Post by shanselman » Sat, Aug 17, 2013, 3:38 PM UTC

mattmanser wrote: post #9

thisisdog wrote: post #6

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There is a empty MVC and Webforms project. Your wall of text of rant is basically due to your own ignorance. The option for empty project is there. I can't figure how anyone can miss it.

But the empty one has nothing in it. I want the happy middle, not EVERYTHING or NOTHING. So not my ignorance as you delightfully say to a person with probably vastly more experience than you, but my frustration. I would actually like to see the way they think you should do things with each new version.

There is one called "basic" that is your happy middle: http://i.imgur.com/gIllZf5.png

Re: JavaScript Strategies at Microsoft with Scott Hanselman

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Post by mattmanser » Sat, Aug 17, 2013, 5:07 PM UTC

shanselman wrote: post #12

mattmanser wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But the empty one has nothing in it. I want the happy middle, not EVERYTHING or NOTHING. So not my ignorance as you delightfully say to a person with probably vastly more experience than you, but my frustration. I would actually like to see the way they think you should do things with each new version.

There is one called "basic" that is your happy middle: http://i.imgur.com/gIllZf5.png

Well, now I feel silly.

Re: JavaScript Strategies at Microsoft with Scott Hanselman

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Post by WayneDB » Sun, Aug 18, 2013, 11:39 PM UTC

mattmanser wrote: post #9

thisisdog wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a empty MVC and Webforms project. Your wall of text of rant is basically due to your own ignorance. The option for empty project is there. I can't figure how anyone can miss it.

But the empty one has nothing in it. I want the happy middle, not EVERYTHING or NOTHING. So not my ignorance as you delightfully say to a person with probably vastly more experience than you, but my frustration. I would actually like to see the way they think you should do things with each new version.

You can create your own customized project template. Even the Express version of Visual Studio lets you create project/item templates.