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What the Steve Jobs movie got right, and wrong

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Re: What the Steve Jobs movie got right, and wrong

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From the trailers & preview material I was worried the movie might be deceptive. Specifically the scenes with Woz and Jobs in the parking lot and later in the office. In an interview Wozniak said the parking lot conversation never took place and got the underlying feelings incorrect. That made me jump to the conclusion that the preview's portrayal of the office scene where Woz leaves Apple would be equally misleading…

If anyone want to see something about NeXT, I can recommend this short (20 minutes) documentary about building NeXT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHsHKzYOV2E&NR=1

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I haven't seen it, but I hope they show in the end that it is just not important to be a successful entrepreneur, but a good human being as well, which Steve Jobs failed miserably at.

Something Larry Ellison seems to be failing at as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bj239x9aJ4

Yes, I was not surprised to learn Steve Jobs and Larry Ellison were good friends.

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Are we going to have a movie about Norman Borlaug, Dennis Richie or Douglas Engelbart as well? What made the movie industry pick Jobs as the topic? I honestly don't understand it.

You don't understand it? You can't fathom why Steve Jobs gets a movie and those guys that you need a CS degree to recognize don't? Keep thinking.

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Are we going to have a movie about Norman Borlaug, Dennis Richie or Douglas Engelbart as well? What made the movie industry pick Jobs as the topic? I honestly don't understand it.

They surveyed 1000 people on which person they'd like to see a movie about. 999 people chose Steve Jobs because he's well known, has an interesting history and personality, the stories around his death were plastered all over the media for months, and they had absolutely no fucking clue who those other people were. One person picked Douglas Englebart, but was later disappointed to learn that he had misread the selection and it wasn't about Englebert Humperdinck.

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Are we going to have a movie about Norman Borlaug, Dennis Richie or Douglas Engelbart as well? What made the movie industry pick Jobs as the topic? I honestly don't understand it.

Hype and a huge cult following. These make the movie much easier to sell.

Not to mention that Jobs' company has been front and centre of the AV computing world... since there was an AV computing world.

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Are we going to have a movie about Norman Borlaug, Dennis Richie or Douglas Engelbart as well? What made the movie industry pick Jobs as the topic? I honestly don't understand it.

Unless you can sell their stories in the time proven 127 minute, 2 peaks setup and market them to a major studio, I doubt it will get any traction.

The only other option would be that the people who care about it fund it, but even though that pool might seem large inside of the tech microcosmos, it's comparitively small, and you'll have a low budget movie that has trouble being shown in theaters.

Engelbart could actually make a movie character, given his obsession with improving the human intellect through computers. It's questionable though whether you can work his life into a movie script that has popular apeal whilst respecting the work he has done.

Borlaugs work could be worked into a movie as well, but it suffers from the same problems that making a movie about Engelbart has. It's tough creating an accurate portrayal of his life whilst having a dramatic story arch in there.

That's part of the reason why the Social Network has such strange set of priorities. I doubt that the court case and the unrequited love story were integral parts in Facebook becomming Facebook, but they fit the story, and the love story likely beat the film over the 2 demographics line.

So in any case, we're the best you can do is either a small film that represents their life accurately (with all the nitpicking that will come with it), or a huge film that twists their lives into 127 minutes screentime and will likely irritate the very people that asked for it. Because if Universal went out and made a biopic about Dennis Richie, there'd be a 1809 Comment thread discussing how they didn't put enough focus on his work in kernel design.

Were better off without a big movie about any of them, however much that may hurt.

What really confuses me is why there isn't a major movie about Richard Feynman. His life is a movie script. Worked on nuclear missles, had his wife, and longtime love interest die of tuberculosis (granted, there is a movie about that part), and so much other stuff that would just fit perfectly. But I digress.

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hype and a huge cult following. These make the movie much easier to sell.

Not to mention that Jobs' company has been front and centre of the AV computing world... since there was an AV computing world.

Companies. In addition to Apple he also owned a film studio...

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Are we going to have a movie about Norman Borlaug, Dennis Richie or Douglas Engelbart as well? What made the movie industry pick Jobs as the topic? I honestly don't understand it.

Is it really that hard to understand that people aren't going to spend millions, if not hundreds of millions, of dollars on a movie if no one is going to see it.

It's quite likely that given the reviews on this Steve Jobs movie, not many people are going to see it. Aaron Sorkin probably has a much more entertaining version in the works.

Re: What the Steve Jobs movie got right, and wrong

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something Larry Ellison seems to be failing at as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bj239x9aJ4

Yes, I was not surprised to learn Steve Jobs and Larry Ellison were good friends.

At least Jobs had taste.

One of them gave us Apple, the other, Oracle.

Not hard to pick a winner.

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