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Re: Github is having a major service outage

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Post by selectnull »

theboss wrote: post #8

Can I ask here? Why do a lot of companies insist on keeping their code on GitHub? It seems expensive and they have many service outages from DDoS attacks. It seems like someone could set up their 10 different git servers for a fraction of the price and have greater up-time due to redundancy. And securing your own isn't rocket science either... What am I not seeing that is the big draw to github?

There are a lot of companies out there who do not have a system administrator capable of setting up or maintaining (the latter is more difficult and time consuming) its own server. GitHub is a solution to that and is quite cheap.

Re: Github is having a major service outage

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Post by Doublon »

theboss wrote: post #8

Can I ask here? Why do a lot of companies insist on keeping their code on GitHub? It seems expensive and they have many service outages from DDoS attacks. It seems like someone could set up their 10 different git servers for a fraction of the price and have greater up-time due to redundancy. And securing your own isn't rocket science either... What am I not seeing that is the big draw to github?

Probably for all the "sugar" around git: code reviews and all the other collaborative tools they provide.

Re: Github is having a major service outage

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Post by tomschlick »

theboss wrote: post #8

Can I ask here? Why do a lot of companies insist on keeping their code on GitHub? It seems expensive and they have many service outages from DDoS attacks. It seems like someone could set up their 10 different git servers for a fraction of the price and have greater up-time due to redundancy. And securing your own isn't rocket science either... What am I not seeing that is the big draw to github?

1) Developer Familiarity 2) They have one of the first (and best) pull request workflows and people again are familiar with it. 3) They are a big name that you can be sure wont be going anywhere anytime soon 4) For a business spending a little extra to not have the headache of managing it yourself is worth it

That all being said I use CodeBaseHQ for my company's repos as they have a better model of projects with repos in them than just repos.

Re: Github is having a major service outage

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Post by Anderkent »

theboss wrote: post #8

Can I ask here? Why do a lot of companies insist on keeping their code on GitHub? It seems expensive and they have many service outages from DDoS attacks. It seems like someone could set up their 10 different git servers for a fraction of the price and have greater up-time due to redundancy. And securing your own isn't rocket science either... What am I not seeing that is the big draw to github?

It's not about git, it's about the addons. The inline code review is amazing. Issue tracker is decent, and with things like huboard easily sufficient for project management. Email notifications are useful, the ability to work from anywhere as long as you have your ssh key invaluable.

The downtimes are... regrettble. But our company moved to github a while ago, and everyone is mostly happy.

Re: Github is having a major service outage

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Post by Anderkent »

bradleyland wrote: post #5
bitdiffusion wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two possibilities: 1. Boredom 2. Infamy (although nobody seems to claim responsibility for attacks like this so not sure how that can be a motivating factor - but who knows).

3. Extortion.

4. Competition 5. General maliciousness (wohoo I managed to annoy so many people)

Re: Github is having a major service outage

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Post by Anderkent »

selectnull wrote: post #9
timmorgan wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GitHub has competitors.

An interesting idea and I have honest question: would anyone in the industry risk DDOS-ing a competitor? I mean, sooner or later they would get caught, the news would spread like a wildfire, that would really be great PR for the attacked. Any ideas on that? Does anyone have a case where that actually happened?

>I mean, sooner or later they would get caught, the news would spread like a wildfire, that would really be great PR for the attacked.

That's nowhere near certain.

Re: Github is having a major service outage

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Post by theboss »

selectnull wrote: post #11
theboss wrote: post #8

Can I ask here? Why do a lot of companies insist on keeping their code on GitHub? It seems expensive and they have many service outages from DDoS attacks. It seems like someone could set up their 10 different git servers for a fraction of the price and have greater up-time due to redundancy. And securing your own isn't rocket science either... What am I not seeing that is the big draw to github?

There are a lot of companies out there who do not have a system administrator capable of setting up or maintaining (the latter is more difficult and time consuming) its own server. GitHub is a solution to that and is quite cheap.

Is it cheap? If I was hypothetically an app company with many customers I could easily have a thousand private repos.

When I checked github (I tried to check again now but their site is down) it would cost something like $1,500 bucks...It seems like I would be getting gouged.

Re: Github is having a major service outage

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Post by wldlyinaccurate »

dkoch wrote: post #6

I wonder how many people who use Github as part of their deployment work flow are impacted by outages like this. I know git is distributed, but I can imagine people with scripts that default to pulling from a github.com origin having to scramble to reconfigure.

This is exactly why we have an internal system which mirrors repos. We've never had our build/deploy process interrupted by GitHub outages because we always use the internal mirror.

Re: Github is having a major service outage

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Post by wldlyinaccurate »

theboss wrote: post #17
selectnull wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are a lot of companies out there who do not have a system administrator capable of setting up or maintaining (the latter is more difficult and time consuming) its own server. GitHub is a solution to that and is quite cheap.

Is it cheap? If I was hypothetically an app company with many customers I could easily have a thousand private repos. When I checked github (I tried to check again now but their site is down) it would cost something like $1,500 bucks...It seems like I would be getting gouged.

A thousand repos is a bit much, don't you think? I've worked for some pretty big agencies before and the number of active projects has never been more than 50-60. That's only going to cost you around $50/month.

The reason I say active is because even if you do have a thousand repos, you're surely not maintaining all of them - that would be insane. You would probably have 950 repos which would be better off archived, backed-up, and removed from GitHub.

Re: Github is having a major service outage

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Post by selectnull »

theboss wrote: post #17
selectnull wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are a lot of companies out there who do not have a system administrator capable of setting up or maintaining (the latter is more difficult and time consuming) its own server. GitHub is a solution to that and is quite cheap.

Is it cheap? If I was hypothetically an app company with many customers I could easily have a thousand private repos. When I checked github (I tried to check again now but their site is down) it would cost something like $1,500 bucks...It seems like I would be getting gouged.

On surface, 1500 bucks seems very expensive. But if I had 1500 private repos (supposedly that means 1500 or little bit less clients) I'm making so much money that 1500 bucks/month looks very cheap. And still much cheaper than paying for full time sys admin (which doesn't mean that you don't employ one or several).

Having said that, personally, I prefer BitBucket pricing scheme where I can have unlimited private repos and paying per number of users.

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