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There are men like that. So what? Long-winded article w/ poor quality of evidence and thinking.
You never know where those fixed-service-percentage money go to. I've visited quite a few 10% "service" restaurants and I often leave a small tip on top of that because I'm entirely not sure whether waiters see any money from that "service". The whole scheme is ridiculous: If you pay 18% for service, what are you paying the rest of 100% for? It doesn't make much sense. Just name your final price.
> and I often leave a small tip on top of that because I'm entirely not sure whether waiters see any money from that "service". Isn't this a crazy sentiment though? It's like we've all been trained to pity waiters and unless we're handing them money directly we're worried they might go home empty handed. How did we get to this point?
If we weren't crazy on this part we would refuse paying anything not on the bill. Like we do in grocery store.
I tip more than 20% because the server minimum wage in Massachusetts is $2.63/hour. It is that simple. You would be surprised the number of people who think that a server is getting $8/hour with tips added on top. I'm a heterosexual male in the age range that this guy is remarking on but I tip male servers and older women the same as I tip younger women. He is stereotyping. No doubt there are some who see tipping as…
You never know where those fixed-service-percentage money go to. I've visited quite a few 10% "service" restaurants and I often leave a small tip on top of that because I'm entirely not sure whether waiters see any money from that "service". The whole scheme is ridiculous: If you pay 18% for service, what are you paying the rest of 100% for? It doesn't make much sense. Just name your final price.
You never know where those fixed-service-percentage money go to. I've visited quite a few 10% "service" restaurants and I often leave a small tip on top of that because I'm entirely not sure whether waiters see any money from that "service". The whole scheme is ridiculous: If you pay 18% for service, what are you paying the rest of 100% for? It doesn't make much sense. Just name your final price.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6126926
This time around the early comments all seem to be negative.
I've now read the 5 published articles and have been really impressed with the this guy's insights. They have greatly aligned with what I've noticed, as someone who was born and raised in a non-tipping culture (I'm Australian) and who has come to live in the US two years ago (at the age of 34).
Back in Australia I had tipped in restaurants on occasion, to reward amazing service, excellent dining experiences and to be honest as a form of flirtation.
Coming to the US where you "have" to tip I noticed a real difference in the experience. Overly attentive servers, forced friendliness, expectations from both sides.... just different.
Trying to explain these things to my American friends was difficult. But I think these articles have really summed it up well.
This was Part of 5 of a series that begins here:
http://jayporter.com/dispatches/observations-from-a-tipless-...
Prior to this aside from being a patron of restaurants my only knowledge of the restaurant biz was based on Setting the Table which Fred Wilson blogged about here:
This is a very interesting but dangerous post: It's interesting because obviously the author has put a lot of thought into the topic and has done some research. However, for me, it clearly shows the danger of ideology, in fact it's a great example of it. "To be ideological is to preconceive reality." and we have a good example of that here: The author has strong opinions about sexuality and our approaches to it, ther…