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Stop Allowing App Reviews From Beta iOS Versions

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Re: Stop Allowing App Reviews From Beta iOS Versions

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That screws over developers who are aiming for iOS 6 as the target for the new release. What if there's a major bug in a program? Are they not supposed to release a bugfix update just because iOS is currently in a beta program?! THAT would unfairly cause a lot of bad reviews for a program.

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Re: Stop Allowing App Reviews From Beta iOS Versions

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Why would Apple spend the energy to fix this? They'll be happy to see developers update their apps to work with iOS7 and the sooner the better. / edit In no means am I saying that it is a good idea. I'm just saying that Apple's desires are not aligned with those of well-meaning developers here.

Because stupid apple library beta only bugs cause these crashes. Apple also seems to put some sort of energy of these releases being 'confidential' for 'authorized developers only' and so on.

Re: Stop Allowing App Reviews From Beta iOS Versions

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> They could respond that it's another incentive to make developer update their apps… Okay, they'll submit a new version every week or so after Apple releases a new beta and hope that it gets through the approval process before the next beta is released. It'll do NOTHING for crashing bugs in iOS that just happen to manifest in programs. There was a volume-up crash in Spotify that (as I understand) was a bug in iOS, n…

..."went full retard", as reddit would say.

I think you could just omit the 1st 3 words above. There would be less offense offered to the mentally disabled and it would be less redundant.

Re: Stop Allowing App Reviews From Beta iOS Versions

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Why would Apple spend the energy to fix this? They'll be happy to see developers update their apps to work with iOS7 and the sooner the better. / edit In no means am I saying that it is a good idea. I'm just saying that Apple's desires are not aligned with those of well-meaning developers here.

Most likely many developers ARE in the process of updating their apps already. But they shouldn't be penalized with bad reviews for an app running on an OS release that is not considered supported yet.

Also, it's hard for people to know if issues are related to the app itself, or underlying problems in the beta iOS release. But any negative review is going to be associated with the app, not the OS.

Re: Stop Allowing App Reviews From Beta iOS Versions

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Why would Apple spend the energy to fix this? They'll be happy to see developers update their apps to work with iOS7 and the sooner the better. / edit In no means am I saying that it is a good idea. I'm just saying that Apple's desires are not aligned with those of well-meaning developers here.

Variant: only show reviews for the same platform, the user wrote review from. E.g. iOS7 users will see their reviews, but iOS6 users will see theirs. And developers will still be penalized if they don't fix problems by the time of iOS7 release, because reviews now will be visible for many more users. So it still incentivizes devs to be quick, but does not pollute reviews with irrelevant for iOS6 users bug reports.

Re: Stop Allowing App Reviews From Beta iOS Versions

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The real problem lays in the default trained behavior of the user - leave a review if _anything_.

Both app developers and Apple have wrongly been pushing users to voice opinions publicly in app reviews, leaving app developers exposed with no way to communicate with those users.

The solution is to start pushing users to communicate their suggestions and issues privately, in the app, where you can better manage conversations, keep users engaged, and build relationships that can turn upset users into long-term evangelists.

Re: Stop Allowing App Reviews From Beta iOS Versions

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Why would Apple spend the energy to fix this? They'll be happy to see developers update their apps to work with iOS7 and the sooner the better. / edit In no means am I saying that it is a good idea. I'm just saying that Apple's desires are not aligned with those of well-meaning developers here.

You are making incorrect assumptions here; specifically, that many beta bugs aren't just a result of Apple breaking its own internal library code (which they will fix themselves before the final iOS version ships). In that case there is nothing the app developer can do except wait it out.

Re: Stop Allowing App Reviews From Beta iOS Versions

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What people seem to forget is parts of iOS 7 are still under NDA, yet people race to post videos and full-length articles of how "the new beta has 10 more pixels on this icon!" That, plus the fact that there are websites that sell UUID registrations so non-develoeprs can use the betas are the reason this happens.

So, instead of blocking iOS betas from submitting reviews, how about everyone as a whole stops breaking the NDA?

Re: Stop Allowing App Reviews From Beta iOS Versions

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What people seem to forget is parts of iOS 7 are still under NDA, yet people race to post videos and full-length articles of how "the new beta has 10 more pixels on this icon!" That, plus the fact that there are websites that sell UUID registrations so non-develoeprs can use the betas are the reason this happens. So, instead of blocking iOS betas from submitting reviews, how about everyone as a whole stops breaking t…

There is no chance that that will happen.
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