Gary Vaynerchuk Keynote at Big Omaha • Hacker News Board

Re: Gary Vaynerchuk Keynote at Big Omaha

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Post by pkaler » Wed, May 20, 2009, 6:04 AM UTC

vaksel wrote: post #10

pkaler wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm gonna assume that you are not an immigrant that has worked in a family business. Because you don't inherit the family business. I worked in the plywood plant where my dad worked when I turned 16 and I worked in all of his side businesses. My uncle that owns an electrical business put my cousins to work when they were 13. My uncle that owns a chain of retail stores put my cousins to work starting at that age, too.…

its much easier to build a $4 mil/yr business into a $40 mil/yr business, than it is you build one from 0 to $4mil. Those people that inherit their parents business, may have worked their ass off since they were young, but they start off ahead off the curve, simply due to the ground work laid down by their parents.

And he was a stockboy at the business when it was being built from $0 to $X million.

How is that any different than Paul Graham taking support calls at ViaWeb or Joel Spolsky putting up blinds at Fog Creek? In a family business, everyone does what it takes to make it successful. They are not inheriting the business. It is their business even if they are not listed as co-founders in the legal papers.

Re: Gary Vaynerchuk Keynote at Big Omaha

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Post by rbreve » Wed, May 20, 2009, 6:23 AM UTC

ojbyrne wrote: post #4

I've occasionally bitched and moaned about Gary V as an entrepreneur - basically inheriting a family business makes it a heck of a lot easier - but he's a pretty good speaker. And that's a large part of it.

There are a lot of people out there who inherited a family business and failed, It's never easy to grow a business whether you inherited it or started from scratch. He took his business from 3 to 60 million dollars, I don't think that's easy.

Re: Gary Vaynerchuk Keynote at Big Omaha

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Post by latortuga » Wed, May 20, 2009, 6:30 AM UTC

sant0sk1 wrote: post #2

Being an Omaha-native, I attended this event and it was excellent from start to finish. Many creative people, entrepreneurs, and developers in attendance. Gary's keynote is definitely worth your free time. I might just watch it again the next time I'm bored.

Cool to see other Nebraskans on HN!

Re: Gary Vaynerchuk Keynote at Big Omaha

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Post by wyclif » Wed, May 20, 2009, 7:28 AM UTC

Can I just say that I loathe the trend of speakers wearing headset mics? And since I don't like headset mics, it's plausible to conclude that I also don't like it when they walk around constantly while talking, thinking that they are creating visual interest.

Re: Gary Vaynerchuk Keynote at Big Omaha

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Post by ojbyrne » Wed, May 20, 2009, 7:41 AM UTC

pkaler wrote: post #6

ojbyrne wrote: post #4

I've occasionally bitched and moaned about Gary V as an entrepreneur - basically inheriting a family business makes it a heck of a lot easier - but he's a pretty good speaker. And that's a large part of it.

I'm gonna assume that you are not an immigrant that has worked in a family business. Because you don't inherit the family business. I worked in the plywood plant where my dad worked when I turned 16 and I worked in all of his side businesses. My uncle that owns an electrical business put my cousins to work when they were 13. My uncle that owns a chain of retail stores put my cousins to work starting at that age, too.…

I actually am an immigrant (to at least 2 different countries) and coincidentally helped my father start a business. But I don't traffic in generalities. I'm sure you worked hard, but it's still anecdotal.

Re: Gary Vaynerchuk Keynote at Big Omaha

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Post by wallflower » Wed, May 20, 2009, 10:09 AM UTC

dpifke wrote: post #9

http://twitter.com/garyvee/status/1854968425

http://bit.ly/info/Zs1Ca

RT view of traffic to HN via his tweet and descendants (RT) therof

And I think these metrics are the reason why Bit.ly is a good potential acquisition for Twitter

Re: Gary Vaynerchuk Keynote at Big Omaha

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Post by vaksel » Wed, May 20, 2009, 5:26 PM UTC

pkaler wrote: post #11

vaksel wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

its much easier to build a $4 mil/yr business into a $40 mil/yr business, than it is you build one from 0 to $4mil. Those people that inherit their parents business, may have worked their ass off since they were young, but they start off ahead off the curve, simply due to the ground work laid down by their parents.

And he was a stockboy at the business when it was being built from $0 to $X million. How is that any different than Paul Graham taking support calls at ViaWeb or Joel Spolsky putting up blinds at Fog Creek? In a family business, everyone does what it takes to make it successful. They are not inheriting the business. It is their business even if they are not listed as co-founders in the legal papers.

Because Paul Graham and Joel Spolsky were actually the ones running the business while they did those extra things like take support calls/put up blinds.

Re: Gary Vaynerchuk Keynote at Big Omaha

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Post by rachaelosborn » Fri, May 22, 2009, 3:38 AM UTC

I said this shortly after on Twitter, but I was not at all satisfied with the answer I got from him when I asked if WineLibrary TV had turned into sales for Wine Library. I don't buy that he doesn't give a fuck at all.

I do believe that he's building a global brand, but he's only tangentially helping Wine Library. More than that, he's building the Gary Vaynerchuk brand, which is admirable, but does me no good when I'm trying to show people who don't "get" the internet that you can actually help the sales of a brick-and-mortar business by becoming a big name on the web.

I like Gary, but he did dodge my question.

Rachael Osborn