Same as reported here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6167331 Interesting to see the Guardian newspaper quoting someone from Hacker News. Same is also true of Firefox - find the right path through the menu structure (different for each version) and reveal all your passwords. Simple enough.
> Interesting to see the Guardian newspaper quoting someone from Hacker News. He isn't just some random commenter though, he is the tech lead of browser security (according to his comment, which I'm guessing The Guardian didn't actually verify :D)
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#13This is embarrassing. What The Guardian (and, earlier, HN) is describing simply isn't a security flaw; rather, HN appears to have had a mild temper tantrum over the lack of a cosmetic "security" feature that, had Chrome implemented it, could have just as easily led to another temper tantrum over how easy it is to bypass.
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#15Why is Chrome named as the "bad guy"? If anything, Chrome reveals the issue, by showing just how accessible browser-saved passwords are in the first place. Do you think that it's impossible for malware to retrieve passwords from IE, Firefox, Safari and Opera? Just how is it possible to import the passwords from these applications, then? This is not a security flaw. Comparing browser password storage to a safe is mild…
It actually is impossible for malware to instantly send off all of your saved passwords if you're using Firefox and have a (reasonably decent) master key set up. I assume Opera has a similar master key option. The keyword however is "instantly."
Now, the malware can and will still of course modify HTML on the fly and steal your passwords immediately after you login to websites, but it would probably take quite a bit of time for it to collect nearly as many passwords as there are stored in your browser's password vault, especially if you use websites that don't require you to re-login very often. And the longer that time window is, the higher the chance the malware will be detected either by odd computer behavior, or an AV detection.
They can also set up a keylogger and wait for you to input your master password at some point. It can sometimes be hard to determine what logged text is actually the master pass, due to how many keyloggers work, but this is of course a viable option.
All-in-all, master passwords do in fact hinder attackers. The first thing many malware spreaders do is dump browser and other saved credentials (often FTP, sometimes IM accounts so they can spam malicious links to contact lists); it's often a quick "in-and-out" dumping process. It's not uncommon for malware to successfully execute and exfiltrate some data as soon as it's loaded, but later as it infects other files or drops additional payloads, AV will fire and the user will try to clean up the machine.
And then there are the very simple cases of "friend/acquaintance uses computer, looks at your passwords really quickly, memorizes a few, goes home and screws with your accounts at a later time." Master passwords make that sort of situation fairly impossible.
I really do not personally see why Chrome doesn't allow master passwords as an option. It would not be a security silver bullet, but it does help.
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#16Why is Chrome named as the "bad guy"? If anything, Chrome reveals the issue, by showing just how accessible browser-saved passwords are in the first place. Do you think that it's impossible for malware to retrieve passwords from IE, Firefox, Safari and Opera? Just how is it possible to import the passwords from these applications, then? This is not a security flaw. Comparing browser password storage to a safe is mild…
Chrome is designed for the layman.
Does it warn you that your passwords are effortlessly stolen by anyone that can access your computer? No.
Does it warn you they're at least not encrypted? No.
Do you think the average Chrome user knows this?
Do you think the average user understands computer security like us IT professionals?
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#18Why is Chrome named as the "bad guy"? If anything, Chrome reveals the issue, by showing just how accessible browser-saved passwords are in the first place. Do you think that it's impossible for malware to retrieve passwords from IE, Firefox, Safari and Opera? Just how is it possible to import the passwords from these applications, then? This is not a security flaw. Comparing browser password storage to a safe is mild…
>Do you think that it's impossible for malware to retrieve passwords from IE, Firefox, Safari and Opera? Just how is it possible to import the passwords from these applications, then? It actually is impossible for malware to instantly send off all of your saved passwords if you're using Firefox and have a (reasonably decent) master key set up. I assume Opera has a similar master key option. The keyword however is "in…
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#19The difference I see is if my spouse or boss wanted to look at my passwords they could, easily. I'm not OK with that. Now, tell me they have to install a trojan, a virus or some other software first to get access to my passwords and thats a level of safety which stops my boss. My boss won't have the technical know how to do it. My spouse could be looking just out of curiosity, the smallest roadblock would stop them. Chrome's implementation makes it easy for anyone to see passwords and that's just wrong!
The length of time anyone will have access to an unsupervised machine plays a role here. It shouldn't take 5 seconds of pointing and clicking that my gran could do to reveal all my passwords. It should take someone more effort!