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Cost of storing all human audio-visual experiences

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Re: Cost of storing all human audio-visual experiences

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assuming somekind of google glass attached to a giant world wide data storage. Could it be compressed? (which got me to thinking about compression and the larger the size of the data stored the more likely the chance of larger and larger streams being duplicate. How many parts of the image do I have to store of my desk. Also, could we limit it to interesting moments(how many times do I have to record me eating cheerios in the morning.)

Re: Cost of storing all human audio-visual experiences

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"If storage prices continue to develop as they have since the 1980s," bzzzt and thanks for playing.

Remember this truism, "In real life, exponentials are s-curves."

That said, there are folks today who record 24x7 stereo 44khz as a 'life diary.' It isn't that hard to store these days and compress down. One could imagine adding video to the mix.

Re: Cost of storing all human audio-visual experiences

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"If storage prices continue to develop as they have since the 1980s," bzzzt and thanks for playing. Remember this truism, "In real life, exponentials are s-curves." That said, there are folks today who record 24x7 stereo 44khz as a 'life diary.' It isn't that hard to store these days and compress down. One could imagine adding video to the mix.

>bzzzt and thanks for playing.

There may be tens or hundreds or even thousands of years before that exponential curve looks like an s-curve, making his point more relevant that yours.

Re: Cost of storing all human audio-visual experiences

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"If storage prices continue to develop as they have since the 1980s," bzzzt and thanks for playing. Remember this truism, "In real life, exponentials are s-curves." That said, there are folks today who record 24x7 stereo 44khz as a 'life diary.' It isn't that hard to store these days and compress down. One could imagine adding video to the mix.

>bzzzt and thanks for playing. There may be tens or hundreds or even thousands of years before that exponential curve looks like an s-curve, making his point more relevant that yours.

Please compute for me the number of bits per atom you will be storing if current trends continue for a thousand years.

Re: Cost of storing all human audio-visual experiences

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It's interesting to think about what these factors actually mean. The perception of what's "good" quality will continue to shift hugely. Life expectancy, hopefully, will go up. Hard drive prices actually haven't come down again after the floods, so I'm guessing they'll stay artificially inflated for a long time - especially considering storage density won't increase in the coming years as we seem to hit a wall there…

how exactly does a well compressed H264 stream at 500 MB per hour work out to 3 TB a year? Wouldn't a years worth of video and audio come closer to thousands of terabytes?

Re: Cost of storing all human audio-visual experiences

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post #16
post #3

It's interesting to think about what these factors actually mean. The perception of what's "good" quality will continue to shift hugely. Life expectancy, hopefully, will go up. Hard drive prices actually haven't come down again after the floods, so I'm guessing they'll stay artificially inflated for a long time - especially considering storage density won't increase in the coming years as we seem to hit a wall there…

how exactly does a well compressed H264 stream at 500 MB per hour work out to 3 TB a year? Wouldn't a years worth of video and audio come closer to thousands of terabytes?

He assumes you only record waking hours and that you are awake 16hrs a day so:

16 * 365 = 5840hrs * 0.5GB per hour = 2920 GB or 2.9 TB. Add another 8GB for a leap year it still doesn't get you over 3TB.

Re: Cost of storing all human audio-visual experiences

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Once whatever successor to Google Glass becomes ubiquitous, I can see this becoming a reality. This is an advertising research agency's wet dream come true, unfortunately.

I wonder, with personal income on the decline this past decade, will advertisers spend less money on adverts or more on people who have more disposable income from mined data?

Re: Cost of storing all human audio-visual experiences

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>bzzzt and thanks for playing. There may be tens or hundreds or even thousands of years before that exponential curve looks like an s-curve, making his point more relevant that yours.

Please compute for me the number of bits per atom you will be storing if current trends continue for a thousand years.

Please compute for me when we'll reach the peak of the exponential growth, and move to the "top of the s-curve". I realize it will happen at some point. I don't pretend to know when.

Do you really think it will occur within 10 years, which is what the author uses for his extrapolation in the article, and which would justify the parent commenter implying the back-of-the-envelope calculation is wrong (with a snide comment)?

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