This guy has the balls. Kudos, Mr Bonneau. I'm curious if he will get a private reprimand from Google execs for unpleasant commentary on their partner :)
On this matter I posted this:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6078124
Google Engineer Wins NSA Award, Then Says NSA Should Be “Abolished”
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Re: Google Engineer Wins NSA Award, Then Says NSA Should Be “Abolished”
#12This guy has the balls. Kudos, Mr Bonneau. I'm curious if he will get a private reprimand from Google execs for unpleasant commentary on their partner :)
I honestly don't understand people's opinion around this. I'm not trying to refute your comment, just understand and see if I missed something. As far as I have read, Google complies with NSA letters (which seems to be required by law, although perhaps not a favorable one) and PRISM is said to give the NSA additional direct access (but I haven't seen any indication of this being proved or confirmed to be known to the…
I think he's being cute. For me this quote sums up what PRISM is really about:
"Nobody wants a box in their network...[Companies often] find ways to give tools to minimize disclosures, to protect users, to keep the government off the premises, and to come to some reasonable compromise on the capabilities."
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57593538-38/how-the-u.s-fo...
Basically: in order to prevent the feds from installing boxes on their networks companies offer to do their own interception, which in my opinion is the far better alternative. "Direct access" isn't accurate.
Re: Google Engineer Wins NSA Award, Then Says NSA Should Be “Abolished”
#13How do you abolish something that the entirety of the federal and state governments rely upon? Intelligence resources are being pooled to the NSA, and cyber-intelligence reports are being sourced wholly from the NSA. They're the single most powerful intelligence agency in the US, and there's absolutely no sign of it slowing down. If there's anything that Obama shall be remembered for, it's that under his administrati…
something that the entirety of the federal and state governments rely upon?
This is not the case at all. The NSA has only existed for 65 years, we can do just fine without it.
Re: Google Engineer Wins NSA Award, Then Says NSA Should Be “Abolished”
#14How do you abolish something that the entirety of the federal and state governments rely upon? Intelligence resources are being pooled to the NSA, and cyber-intelligence reports are being sourced wholly from the NSA. They're the single most powerful intelligence agency in the US, and there's absolutely no sign of it slowing down. If there's anything that Obama shall be remembered for, it's that under his administrati…
In hindsight, it's probably telling that Obama said he was heavily inspired by Abraham Lincoln. Lincoln vastly consolidated federal power during his presidency, and had some dubious issues with the Constitution as well.
Re: Google Engineer Wins NSA Award, Then Says NSA Should Be “Abolished”
#15>> Like many in the community of cryptographers and security engineers, I’m sad that we haven’t better informed the public about the inherent dangers and questionable utility of mass surveillance.
Thought provoking.
Re: Google Engineer Wins NSA Award, Then Says NSA Should Be “Abolished”
#16How do you abolish something that the entirety of the federal and state governments rely upon? Intelligence resources are being pooled to the NSA, and cyber-intelligence reports are being sourced wholly from the NSA. They're the single most powerful intelligence agency in the US, and there's absolutely no sign of it slowing down. If there's anything that Obama shall be remembered for, it's that under his administrati…
In hindsight, it's probably telling that Obama said he was heavily inspired by Abraham Lincoln. Lincoln vastly consolidated federal power during his presidency, and had some dubious issues with the Constitution as well.
"some dubious issues with the Constitution as well."
Is there a President this is not true for?
Re: Google Engineer Wins NSA Award, Then Says NSA Should Be “Abolished”
#17How do you abolish something that the entirety of the federal and state governments rely upon? Intelligence resources are being pooled to the NSA, and cyber-intelligence reports are being sourced wholly from the NSA. They're the single most powerful intelligence agency in the US, and there's absolutely no sign of it slowing down. If there's anything that Obama shall be remembered for, it's that under his administrati…
In hindsight, it's probably telling that Obama said he was heavily inspired by Abraham Lincoln. Lincoln vastly consolidated federal power during his presidency, and had some dubious issues with the Constitution as well.
The sad part of that being, of course, the fact that while Lincoln had half of the country in rebellion and offensive war to deal with, Obama has something that is less deadly than bathtubs to deal with. It is almost farcical.
Re: Google Engineer Wins NSA Award, Then Says NSA Should Be “Abolished”
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
In hindsight, it's probably telling that Obama said he was heavily inspired by Abraham Lincoln. Lincoln vastly consolidated federal power during his presidency, and had some dubious issues with the Constitution as well.
"some dubious issues with the Constitution as well." Is there a President this is not true for?
Carter?
Re: Google Engineer Wins NSA Award, Then Says NSA Should Be “Abolished”
#19How do you abolish something that the entirety of the federal and state governments rely upon? Intelligence resources are being pooled to the NSA, and cyber-intelligence reports are being sourced wholly from the NSA. They're the single most powerful intelligence agency in the US, and there's absolutely no sign of it slowing down. If there's anything that Obama shall be remembered for, it's that under his administrati…
something that the entirety of the federal and state governments rely upon? This is not the case at all. The NSA has only existed for 65 years, we can do just fine without it.
So have computers.