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Startup Culture is Not About Ping-Pong Tables

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Re: Startup Culture is Not About Ping-Pong Tables

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This reads like the exact sort of mission statement that is passed from HR and is defined as the company 'culture.'

Culture is something built from the top down and must be prevalent as an absolute deal breaker in each and every hiring decision.

What I mean by this is if you aren't asking the question 'Is this someone I want to work/have lunch with?' during the interview process then you are going to bring people in who won't be a proper fit. As a byproduct of this, there needs to be a decent amount of time just getting to know the person before hiring them where no interview questions are asked.

Re: Startup Culture is Not About Ping-Pong Tables

#13
post #4

Paraphrase of the "Challenge" paragraph: "We only solve very very hard problems, we turn away the easy problems, and we all agree that's the way to go" Does anyone really think that way or fall for that? This is incredibly immature. Why would you turn away easy jobs? You're not researchers, you're a business. I never think of whether the problems I'm solving are "easy" or "hard". They just need to be fixed. It seems…

I thought it was because I am Dutch, but the blog post is indeed not the way you should talk to Dutch people... :-D

All the best to them anyway.

Re: Startup Culture is Not About Ping-Pong Tables

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This article reads as "This is not company culture, this other thing is". But goes into very little detail about why. The only description of what culture generally is, is this:

> It’s about values and mindset.

What if your mission statement is "We value a fun work environemnt", or "We value our employees"? Is that /not/ an acceptable culture value? If you don't think it is, then the rest of my post won't be of interest to you, but I'd be interested to know why "we value winning" is, but "we value a fun workplace" isn't.

If it is, then how would you convey it to prospective employees? Do you just tell them that and hope they understand what that means?

I think a much more compelling (dare I say, meaningful?) way to convey those kinds of values is to say how they're implemented. If you say you value constant learning/professional development, people have to take it on faith that you are on the cutting edge, or that you give them freedom. A more meaningful thing to say, I think, would be to give specific examples. The extends to human values, like "we value a fun, casual workplace--we have a video game room, no dress code, and flexible hours".

So, to make an analogy: I think that ping pong tables are to "we value a playful office environment" as "we don't have team leaders" is to OP's inspiration section.

Re: Startup Culture is Not About Ping-Pong Tables

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post #15

This article reads as "This is not company culture, this other thing is". But goes into very little detail about why. The only description of what culture generally is, is this: > It’s about values and mindset. What if your mission statement is "We value a fun work environemnt", or "We value our employees"? Is that /not/ an acceptable culture value? If you don't think it is, then the rest of my post won't be of inter…

> We value a fun work environemnt

If a ping-pong table is on your stuff-to-buy list for the first 3 years or so you've either hit one out of the park or you're as good as dead.

Re: Startup Culture is Not About Ping-Pong Tables

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post #15

This article reads as "This is not company culture, this other thing is". But goes into very little detail about why. The only description of what culture generally is, is this: > It’s about values and mindset. What if your mission statement is "We value a fun work environemnt", or "We value our employees"? Is that /not/ an acceptable culture value? If you don't think it is, then the rest of my post won't be of inter…

> We value a fun work environemnt If a ping-pong table is on your stuff-to-buy list for the first 3 years or so you've either hit one out of the park or you're as good as dead.

Ping pong tables cost about ~$150. That seems pretty cheap for stress relief and entertainment.

I'd be careful not to read too much data into tiny signals like whether a company has a ping pong table.

Re: Startup Culture is Not About Ping-Pong Tables

#18
Such hate for ping pong tables. I can't think of a better way to get a bit of energetic competitive sport in to relax you and break up the day, all without leaving the office.

Sure if you spent $50k on a games room I can see where you are coming from. Ping pong table for a few hundred doesn't seem to be a real sign of startup excess.

Re: Startup Culture is Not About Ping-Pong Tables

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post #6
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It seems to me that MojoTech's culture is 'look at us, we're superheroes, look at the problems we're solving, they're ultra-difficult.' What is wrong with that? If they want to attract people who enjoy finding difficult problems and solving them more power to them. What you see as easy money they might see as grunt work getting in the way of what they enjoy. The industry needs many different cultures. The practical…

They're showing off in a holier-than-thou douchey way. Contrast that with the attitude the folks at freenode#haskell sport, who are actually solving hard problems, and you'll understand why I think MojoTech's blog post is immature.

Good news: http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2010/12/haskell-researchers-...

Re: Startup Culture is Not About Ping-Pong Tables

#20
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're showing off in a holier-than-thou douchey way. Contrast that with the attitude the folks at freenode#haskell sport, who are actually solving hard problems, and you'll understand why I think MojoTech's blog post is immature.

Good news: http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2010/12/haskell-researchers-...

That's cute, but my point is not about Haskell, but about the new grounds computer scientists are breaking using Haskell as a tool. Those are seriously hard problems. Making a phone app is not hard.
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