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What Makes Us Happy?

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Re: What Makes Us Happy?

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Here's an interesting passage from the article:

"But what does it mean, really, to be happier? For 30 years, Denmark has topped international happiness surveys. But Danes are hardly a sanguine bunch. Ask an American how it’s going, and you will usually hear 'Really good.' Ask a Dane, and you will hear 'Det kunne være værre (It could be worse).'

"'Danes have consistently low (and indubitably realistic) expectations for the year to come,' a team of Danish scholars concluded. 'Year after year they are pleasantly surprised to find that not everything is getting more rotten in the state of Denmark.'"

"Of course, happiness scientists have come up with all kinds of straightforward, and actionable, findings: that money does little to make us happier once our basic needs are met; that marriage and faith lead to happiness (or it could be that happy people are more likely to be married and spiritual); that temperamental “set points” for happiness—a predisposition to stay at a certain level of happiness—account for a large, but not overwhelming, percentage of our well-being. (Fifty percent, says Sonja Lyubomirsky in The How of Happiness. Circumstances account for 10 percent, and the other 40 percent is within our control.) But why do countries with the highest self-reports of subjective well-being also yield the most suicides? How is it that children are often found to be a source of “negative affect” (sadness, anger)—yet people identify children as their greatest source of pleasure?"

Re: What Makes Us Happy?

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The following talk is required viewing before any discussion on happiness can take place. It's absolutely and completely vital to understand the points demonstrated in this talk to have an informed opinion on the subject. http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/dan_gilbert_asks_why_are_... Long story short: Choice makes us unhappy, yet we believe that it's what will make us happy and so we strive for it. We actively seek…

If you like the talk, read Gilbert's book "Stumbling on Happiness," which is the long version of the talk.

Re: What Makes Us Happy?

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post #2

The following talk is required viewing before any discussion on happiness can take place. It's absolutely and completely vital to understand the points demonstrated in this talk to have an informed opinion on the subject. http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/dan_gilbert_asks_why_are_... Long story short: Choice makes us unhappy, yet we believe that it's what will make us happy and so we strive for it. We actively seek…

If you like the talk, read Gilbert's book "Stumbling on Happiness," which is the long version of the talk.

Books? You have time to read books? (I jest - 'tis nearing the top of a very long list...)

Re: What Makes Us Happy?

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post #11

Here's an interesting passage from the article: "But what does it mean, really, to be happier? For 30 years, Denmark has topped international happiness surveys. But Danes are hardly a sanguine bunch. Ask an American how it’s going, and you will usually hear 'Really good.' Ask a Dane, and you will hear 'Det kunne være værre (It could be worse).' "'Danes have consistently low (and indubitably realistic) expectations fo…

Danes have consistently low (and indubitably realistic) expectations...

Life consistently sucks, but if you accept that, you can be pleasantly surprised.

Re: What Makes Us Happy?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suppose it depends on how you approach the article. I didn't really expect a concise, scientific piece from The Atlantic, especially one that starts off as a flashback reminiscent of a mild psycho-drama. I didn't expect it to give me the secret to happiness either. I read it more as a collection of non-fictional short stories with a binding theme (life and happiness) I suppose. That's probably why I enjoyed it more…

It's the Atlantic, not a psychology journal, so the expected audience and writing style are going to be different. Coding Horror is usually pretty short on depth and detail, too. Articles like this are a good way to hear about studies you want to read about further. I don't have time to keep current on neurology, linguistics, psychology, history, archaeology, epidemiology, etc., etc., etc. journals, and I highly doub…

Yes, the "all writing must be clinical and concise" comments are one of those absurd nerd memes that I wish would die. The Atlantic is not the primary literature, and you can't impugn an entire research program based on a pop-science summary written for mass consumption.

If I could teach nerds only one thing about the world, it's that dismissing non-technical forms of communication as useless does not impress anyone with your intellectual skill -- it just makes you annoying and hard to tolerate.

Re: What Makes Us Happy?

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The answer would tend to be "not what you think." I'm surprised the article doesn't mention Daniel Gilbert's book Stumbling on Happiness (see more about it here: http://jseliger.com/2009/04/23/stumbling-on-happiness-—-dani... ), which discusses the role of income, perception, consumption, and more.

Re: What Makes Us Happy?

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the Atlantic, not a psychology journal, so the expected audience and writing style are going to be different. Coding Horror is usually pretty short on depth and detail, too. Articles like this are a good way to hear about studies you want to read about further. I don't have time to keep current on neurology, linguistics, psychology, history, archaeology, epidemiology, etc., etc., etc. journals, and I highly doub…

Yes, the "all writing must be clinical and concise" comments are one of those absurd nerd memes that I wish would die. The Atlantic is not the primary literature, and you can't impugn an entire research program based on a pop-science summary written for mass consumption. If I could teach nerds only one thing about the world, it's that dismissing non-technical forms of communication as useless does not impress anyone…

It seems like a lot of good programmers have hobbies to help get out of the all-tech, all-the-time mental rut. Balance is healthy.

Also, the information bandwidth of social communication is incredibly high. Much of our mental resources are dedicated to social decisions (friend or foe? are they lying?), which computers tend to handle very poorly.

Re: What Makes Us Happy?

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post #11

Here's an interesting passage from the article: "But what does it mean, really, to be happier? For 30 years, Denmark has topped international happiness surveys. But Danes are hardly a sanguine bunch. Ask an American how it’s going, and you will usually hear 'Really good.' Ask a Dane, and you will hear 'Det kunne være værre (It could be worse).' "'Danes have consistently low (and indubitably realistic) expectations fo…

I'm a little skeptical of this type of happiness in Denmark. It seems to come with a feeling of giving up. Yes, things could be worse, but if they were, would you really care or try to make it better? Are you giving up on life?

Re: What Makes Us Happy?

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post #2

The following talk is required viewing before any discussion on happiness can take place. It's absolutely and completely vital to understand the points demonstrated in this talk to have an informed opinion on the subject. http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/dan_gilbert_asks_why_are_... Long story short: Choice makes us unhappy, yet we believe that it's what will make us happy and so we strive for it. We actively seek…

If you like the talk, read Gilbert's book "Stumbling on Happiness," which is the long version of the talk.

or "The paradox of choice: Why more is less" by Barry Schwartz.
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