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Re: Come to London

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Post by vickytnz »

cocoflunchy wrote: post #8

Reading your internships page ( http://www.lokku.com/jobs/intern.html ): > Will you pay for my travel to London? No. > Can you help me get a work permit? No. You need to be able to work in the UK. The internship sounds really interesting, but maybe if you want more people applying from all over Europe, you should be a little more open about your relocation policy? (I understand that the cost of travel might not be pr…

Doesn't being an EU citizen give you free right of work? (This is spoken as someone who's non-EU and is going to have all kinds of fun sorting out visas once I finish studying in the UK).

Re: Come to London

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Post by arethuza »

freyfogle wrote: post #10
cocoflunchy wrote: post #8

Reading your internships page ( http://www.lokku.com/jobs/intern.html ): > Will you pay for my travel to London? No. > Can you help me get a work permit? No. You need to be able to work in the UK. The internship sounds really interesting, but maybe if you want more people applying from all over Europe, you should be a little more open about your relocation policy? (I understand that the cost of travel might not be pr…

If you're from the EU you don't need a work permit.

I think it's the EEA - which is the EU plus Iceland, Norway and Lichtenstein:

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/eucitizens/

Re: Come to London

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Post by henrik_w »

sztanko wrote: post #9

Several years ago I treated Lokku as the coolest place to work in London according to my criterias. It was the only one map-obsessed, small, open-source friendly, no-bullshit startup in a nice location. Unfortunately I was a Java guy and they were looking for Perl people. I believe you cannot underestimate the impact it makes on London geo scene. Without Lokku, London will be a rather dull place from geospatial persp…

The language shouldn't matter for a good developer. From their web page: "Many of our past interns have been new to Perl."

Re: Come to London

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Post by xadoc »

freyfogle wrote: post #7
xadoc wrote: post #5

I believe the reason why Portuguese developers are not flooding UK (I don't completely agree, I see them coming more and more but slowly) is that any reasonably good developer in Portugal still can find work in consulting and state related IT firms. They work long hours and earn low, but enough to live comfortably there.

But won't that opportunity be there after they spend 2-3 fun years in London?

That is my point exactly to them, but it seems tougher to leave family and friends when you live comfortably and still save some cash.

Here is a sample of excuses my Portuguese friends (SW Engineer related) gave me to not even consider job opportunities in London:

- can't leave my family now, I have a girlfriend and don't want to leave her

- my English is not good enough

- I don't like the weather there (sounds stupid, but I hear this one a lot)

Also right now in Portugal there is bullshit talk from employers that younger people should stay and help revamp the economy (by working extra hours for free) and the situation is so bad that in some areas like Design/Architecture people do internships for free and the interns keep being replaced with new ones after 3 months or so.

Re: Come to London

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Post by cocoflunchy »

freyfogle wrote: post #10
cocoflunchy wrote: post #8

Reading your internships page ( http://www.lokku.com/jobs/intern.html ): > Will you pay for my travel to London? No. > Can you help me get a work permit? No. You need to be able to work in the UK. The internship sounds really interesting, but maybe if you want more people applying from all over Europe, you should be a little more open about your relocation policy? (I understand that the cost of travel might not be pr…

If you're from the EU you don't need a work permit.

I know, but I think it doesn't help with the "international-friendly" image that they want to display.

Re: Come to London

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Post by sztanko »

henrik_w wrote: post #13
sztanko wrote: post #9

Several years ago I treated Lokku as the coolest place to work in London according to my criterias. It was the only one map-obsessed, small, open-source friendly, no-bullshit startup in a nice location. Unfortunately I was a Java guy and they were looking for Perl people. I believe you cannot underestimate the impact it makes on London geo scene. Without Lokku, London will be a rather dull place from geospatial persp…

The language shouldn't matter for a good developer. From their web page: "Many of our past interns have been new to Perl."

I wasn't an intern and I wanted to go towards Java/Hadoop. Which was not required at Lokku at that time.

Re: Come to London

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Post by tomp »

cocoflunchy wrote: post #8

Reading your internships page ( http://www.lokku.com/jobs/intern.html ): > Will you pay for my travel to London? No. > Can you help me get a work permit? No. You need to be able to work in the UK. The internship sounds really interesting, but maybe if you want more people applying from all over Europe, you should be a little more open about your relocation policy? (I understand that the cost of travel might not be pr…

2) If you're an EU citizen, you can work in the UK (with a few exceptions, e.g. AFAIK Croatia citizens can't access the common jobs market for a certain period after Croatia has joined the EU). If you're not, it's a lot of paperwork to get a work permit, and usually not worth it.

1) EU travel is really cheap - London is one of the most frequented destinations for the low-cost airlines (EasyJet, RyanAir, WizzAir, ...), so it shouldn't be more than 200EUR return from just about anywhere in EU.

Re: Come to London

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Post by gotofritz »

cocoflunchy wrote: post #8

Reading your internships page ( http://www.lokku.com/jobs/intern.html ): > Will you pay for my travel to London? No. > Can you help me get a work permit? No. You need to be able to work in the UK. The internship sounds really interesting, but maybe if you want more people applying from all over Europe, you should be a little more open about your relocation policy? (I understand that the cost of travel might not be pr…

Travel TO London is probably not going to be half as expensive as travel IN London once they get there

Re: Come to London

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Post by iaskwhy »

xadoc wrote: post #5

I believe the reason why Portuguese developers are not flooding UK (I don't completely agree, I see them coming more and more but slowly) is that any reasonably good developer in Portugal still can find work in consulting and state related IT firms. They work long hours and earn low, but enough to live comfortably there.

And by "earn low but enough to live comfortably there" you mean around 1000 eur/m, a little bit more but not that much if you are lucky. I wouldn't call it living comfortably if you're not living with your parents.
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