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Plug: the brain of your devices

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Re: Plug: the brain of your devices

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Hmm. Plug will apparently retail for $150. If I look at the dual band 802.11n router I have which happens to have a USB host port for NAS (which seems to be common these days?), it's $87 on Amazon, and of course if you don't want the router part you can get something for much less, or just use an existing desktop if you don't mind the power bill.

Of course much of the value is in the convenience of setup and the full-featured set of client software that they've developed. But $150 seems like a huge markup.

Re: Plug: the brain of your devices

#12
This is very exciting because I feel this addresses one of the cornerstone technology failures that keeps me from enjoying the computing model I want, which I call PAO [1]. Namely, it deals with the failure of VPNs to evolve into something that regular consumers can understand. Plug in this device, add a hard drive, and access your data on your various computing devices from anywhere on the Internet. VPNs have had the underlying capability to provide that access to personal data, and those savvy enough to implement a personal VPN server do so. I don't use cloud file servers because I can access my home network's file server over an IPSec VPN from all of my devices. But what a pain in the ass.

Most people defer the responsibility to manage their data to cloud vendors because cloud vendors solve the key pain point (I need my data everywhere) at the seemingly low cost of just losing control and some added friction. But the alternatives where control is retained have classically been user interface disasters. I imagine my mom setting up an IPSec/L2TP VPN--yeah, not happening.

Even as someone who does have the ability to set up a VPN, I am left with routine annoyances associated with the abysmal user interfaces associated with managing VPN connections.

Of course, in addition to this, to realize PAO, I still need an OS-level application server concept with all my applications designed in a "responsive" model servicing multiple concurrent views. But providing always-on plug-and-play VPN connectivity and from-everywhere access to personal data is a leap forward.

Thanks for your work on this, guys!

Such a device has the potential to render all traditional cloud storage vendors obsolete, and I welcome that potential future.

[1] http://tiamat.tsotech.com/pao

Re: Plug: the brain of your devices

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post #11

Hmm. Plug will apparently retail for $150. If I look at the dual band 802.11n router I have which happens to have a USB host port for NAS (which seems to be common these days?), it's $87 on Amazon, and of course if you don't want the router part you can get something for much less, or just use an existing desktop if you don't mind the power bill. Of course much of the value is in the convenience of setup and the full…

If it really is as robust and simple to operate as they claim it will be, $150 seems more than fair. Especially considering the thriving $500 tablet market is driven by every day people who think it's too much of a hassle to use their phone or laptop on their sofa. I'm not sold on the product yet (security reasons) but price is certainly not my complaint.

Re: Plug: the brain of your devices

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I think this is a very neat project and am looking forward to seeing how it turns out. One thing I would like is the ability to have a software only solution. I already have a NAS and have no desire to buy another USB. I get why for simplicity reasons they are going with the hardware but I would love a software version.

Take a look at OwnCloud http://owncloud.org/ and BitTorrent Sync: http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/sync.html

Re: Plug: the brain of your devices

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post #11

Hmm. Plug will apparently retail for $150. If I look at the dual band 802.11n router I have which happens to have a USB host port for NAS (which seems to be common these days?), it's $87 on Amazon, and of course if you don't want the router part you can get something for much less, or just use an existing desktop if you don't mind the power bill. Of course much of the value is in the convenience of setup and the full…

I don't understand why you have to buy hardware at all. Surely everything Plug does can be done with some software that sits on any of your existing desktop machines.

Obviously keeping a desktop computer turned on all day just to run your Plug app isn't ideal but it would be good to have an option to buy the software instead of the $150 black box. Many people have an always-on machine sitting at home running as a media server anyway.

Re: Plug: the brain of your devices

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So it's a USB backed NAS with some custom software to manage sync on computers and devices? Okay that actually sounds pretty good since NAS devices are usually pretty expensive. When multiple disks are installed in the USB chain does it manage the data so that a failure on a disk doesn't lose data? Will it alert me if one of the disks went bad?

The Kickstarter mentions online backup solutions, but does it have any integration with them?

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