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Re: undefined

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Post by biohacker42 » Fri, May 08, 2009, 4:45 PM UTC

yef wrote: post #4

For as much as HN'ers like to complain about day jobs and their stupid managers, I'd just like to point out that this is one of the least professional job postings I've ever seen. Let the downvotes begin! :)

Rather then just downvote we can provide constructive criticism.

Unpaid PHP LAMP HTML Javascript / AJAX CAKE MVC Frameworks experience in the valley Seriously?

Re: undefined

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Post by steveplace » Fri, May 08, 2009, 4:54 PM UTC

weebro wrote: post #3

marketplace, $100 Billion market per annum USA, kinda reverse auction and no it's not like ebay and it's not something obvious.

Is it similar to swoopo?

Re: undefined

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Post by ashishk » Fri, May 08, 2009, 5:25 PM UTC

steveplace wrote: post #12

weebro wrote: post #3

marketplace, $100 Billion market per annum USA, kinda reverse auction and no it's not like ebay and it's not something obvious.

Is it similar to swoopo?

that what it seems like

Re: undefined

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Post by kleevr » Fri, May 08, 2009, 5:47 PM UTC

biohacker42 wrote: post #11

yef wrote: post #4

For as much as HN'ers like to complain about day jobs and their stupid managers, I'd just like to point out that this is one of the least professional job postings I've ever seen. Let the downvotes begin! :)

Rather then just downvote we can provide constructive criticism. Unpaid PHP LAMP HTML Javascript / AJAX CAKE MVC Frameworks experience in the valley Seriously?

Just to offer a different perspective. As a guy currently from Oklahoma(whose just about to fly the coop for even better reasons); if I was still in school and had a weak CV, I would still jump on something like this. In fact, if I wasn't concerned about ethical implications, I would recommend that some of our talented interns take a shot at the much bigger leagues. I'm positive they would learn more there by accident than they could on purpose in Norman, OK.

Re: undefined

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Post by weebro » Fri, May 08, 2009, 7:17 PM UTC

brett wrote: post #9

How should applicants contact you?

colin (at) breakie (dot) net

sorry I'm not on the same time zone as you guys I think

Re: undefined

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Post by weebro » Fri, May 08, 2009, 7:21 PM UTC

yef wrote: post #4

For as much as HN'ers like to complain about day jobs and their stupid managers, I'd just like to point out that this is one of the least professional job postings I've ever seen. Let the downvotes begin! :)

'day jobs and their stupid managers' This says a lot about your maturity and attitude dude. Your manager is your manager for a reason, one day you'll work it out, I'm not going to help turn the bulb on, you'll find the switch one day. I also note, it's normally people in 'day jobs' that has as negative an attitude in life as you. We're offering the chance to join our dream not to work as a slave!

Re: undefined

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Post by weebro » Fri, May 08, 2009, 7:24 PM UTC

jfarmer wrote: post #10

Right, so, let's conduct a thought experiment. To be considered I must have experience with multiple technologies, the ability to build web applications, and a whole portfolio of work. Why am I looking for an unpaid internship with a mysterious startup, again?

That was very thorough, thank you. I wish people thought more about the context within which the chose to apply words.

Shall I put out a request asking for someone with very little experience and no previous proven application of that knowledge and skill? Then maybe you will apply.

Re: undefined

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Post by weebro » Fri, May 08, 2009, 7:29 PM UTC

ashishk wrote: post #13

steveplace wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it similar to swoopo?

that what it seems like

No, it's nothing like Swoopo, it's not in that space at all. It's also 'like' a reverse auction but it's not. It's not in medical or in military but it is a very big industry. It's actually targeted towards construction initially. But it's NOT in construction.

Re: undefined

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Post by weebro » Fri, May 08, 2009, 7:31 PM UTC

weebro wrote: post #15

brett wrote: post #9

How should applicants contact you?

colin (at) breakie (dot) net sorry I'm not on the same time zone as you guys I think

no wise cracks on that comment :) Actually, no give me wise cracks, this should be fun

Re: undefined

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Post by ori_b » Fri, May 08, 2009, 8:01 PM UTC

> This is an expenses paid (but no wage) internship

I'm expecting to save $3000 CAD/month this summer as an intern after all expenses (I'm living cheaply, but my wages are quite average). The work I'll be doing is also a great deal more interesting, I suspect, than any web startup could ever offer.

While I would't expect to make as much money if I was working for a startup, this offer is simply a rip off. As reference, personally I would expect to be offered a bare minimum of $12/hour for technical work. That's the level at which I wouldn't laugh in your face and walk off.

If your company is too cheap to pay students working for them, that also raises questions about the sort of work that they would be doing, and now interesting it might be. It also implies strongly that the students would be on a lower rung and would be a "lower class" at the company, with poorer working conditions and a lack of respect.

Overall, unpaid positions without massive perks [edit: or other forms of payment] scream "AVOID!".