That may be the single most blatant piece of PR I have ever seen!
Yea it really is - I have nothing to do with these fellows but I found it interesting nonetheless so I posted it.
Can Snowden fly by private jet from Moscow to Ecuador?
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#13You can fly wherever you want. No international commercial airline will let you on their plane unless you have a valid passport / VISA for the destination. If you show up by private plane, you will have to show your passport to enter the country, or else you are denied entry. Currently, Snowden is denied entry to Russia, and is stuck in the "Transportation Zone" of a Russian airport, unable to enter the country. Snow…
He's also had his US passport revoked - if he does fly, it'll have to be accompanied by diplomats or similar with special dispensations
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#14This is shameless advertising.
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#16It's hard to think US would not intercept the plane at some point over the ocean. Could be the case even with a commercial flight.
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When you board a commercial airline you have to show that you have a valid visa/passport for your destination however that is not technically checked until you go through that country's immigration service. So would it be possible for a private jet to pick up Snowden and drop him in Ecuador where he could officially apply for asylum? It sounds like the main issue is that he has to be in Ecuador to apply.
Very tricky because any private jet isn't going to have the range to make that in one hop.
No but maybe it could fly over the arctic to iceland, refuel then to somewhere in northwest africa for a quick refuel, then across the atlantic.
Bit of a trek but possible?
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#18You can fly wherever you want. No international commercial airline will let you on their plane unless you have a valid passport / VISA for the destination. If you show up by private plane, you will have to show your passport to enter the country, or else you are denied entry. Currently, Snowden is denied entry to Russia, and is stuck in the "Transportation Zone" of a Russian airport, unable to enter the country. Snow…
He's also had his US passport revoked - if he does fly, it'll have to be accompanied by diplomats or similar with special dispensations
As a US citizen, its bullshit that a country can revoke your right to travel outside of itself.
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He's also had his US passport revoked - if he does fly, it'll have to be accompanied by diplomats or similar with special dispensations
As a US citizen, its bullshit that a country can revoke your right to travel outside of itself.
> As a US citizen, its bullshit that a country can revoke your right to travel outside of itself.
Countries don't provide (or revoke) your right to travel outside of their sovereign jurisdiction (which would be contrary to the entire idea of sovereign jurisdiction); they can, however, revoke their willingness to represent to other countries that they have some kind of relationship with you. (They can also stop you from exiting their jurisdiction while you are still inside it, and though the US would have liked to have done that in Snowden's case, it didn't have the opportunity.)
Its the country you are currently in and the one you are attempting to enter that control whether or not you have the "right" to travel.
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As a US citizen, its bullshit that a country can revoke your right to travel outside of itself.
> As a US citizen, its bullshit that a country can revoke your right to travel outside of itself. Countries don't provide (or revoke) your right to travel outside of their sovereign jurisdiction (which would be contrary to the entire idea of sovereign jurisdiction); they can, however, revoke their willingness to represent to other countries that they have some kind of relationship with you. (They can also stop you fr…
You, as a citizen of country, have the right to renounce your citizenship of that country at any time. Your country of citizenship should never have the right to revoke your own citizenship.
I understand stopping someone from leaving the borders due to legal reasons. But being able to stop your travel once you're outside the country? No.