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Google Launches Cloud Playground, A Browser Environment For Trying Its Cloud

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Re: Google Launches Cloud Playground, A Browser Environment For Trying Its Cloud

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Post by gyepi »

amiramir wrote: post #8

NSA issues aside, it would be nice to get some of the community's thoughts on the merits of the service from a technical and product point of view.

I think the App Engine is perfect for developers who don't want to have to make decisions about servers and infrastructure. This can be beneficial. However, your design must fit their infrastructure. Depending on your application, this may or may not be a good thing.

If you ever need/want/have to migrate your application elsewhere, you'd have to replicate their environment or rewrite the application.

For the kinds of applications I work on, those are deal breakers so I use AWS (which also has its limitations) or some other server hosting service instead.

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Post by jedc »

gyepi wrote: post #11
amiramir wrote: post #8

NSA issues aside, it would be nice to get some of the community's thoughts on the merits of the service from a technical and product point of view.

I think the App Engine is perfect for developers who don't want to have to make decisions about servers and infrastructure. This can be beneficial. However, your design must fit their infrastructure. Depending on your application, this may or may not be a good thing. If you ever need/want/have to migrate your application elsewhere, you'd have to replicate their environment or rewrite the application. For the kinds of…

That's not the case for Java apps on App Engine anymore. According to http://googlecloudplatform.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/google-app... and http://www.jboss.org/capedwarf

I run a number of apps on Python/App Engine specifically because I don't want to deal with servers/infrastructure/scaling. Sometimes the limitations aren't ideal, but it's still a trade-off I've been happy with overall.

Re: Google Launches Cloud Playground, A Browser Environment For Trying Its Cloud

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Post by gyepi »

jedc wrote: post #12
gyepi wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the App Engine is perfect for developers who don't want to have to make decisions about servers and infrastructure. This can be beneficial. However, your design must fit their infrastructure. Depending on your application, this may or may not be a good thing. If you ever need/want/have to migrate your application elsewhere, you'd have to replicate their environment or rewrite the application. For the kinds of…

That's not the case for Java apps on App Engine anymore. According to http://googlecloudplatform.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/google-app... and http://www.jboss.org/capedwarf I run a number of apps on Python/App Engine specifically because I don't want to deal with servers/infrastructure/scaling. Sometimes the limitations aren't ideal, but it's still a trade-off I've been happy with overall.

Right, this proves my point. You can run Java apps on JBoss. That's it. You are still limited to using their infrastructure. Don't get me wrong, that's not necessarily a bad thing. For many, it's wonderful. I'm just saying that one needs to weigh needs, capabilities and goals carefully before deciding to use Google Apps (or any other "platform") because your application has to work in their platform and moving to another platform could be very costly.

It seems obvious to say, but many technical decisions involve trade offs of one kind or the other. The ones that bind early and have high switching costs are worth thinking through at some depth.

Re: Google Launches Cloud Playground, A Browser Environment For Trying Its Cloud

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Post by dominotw »

rasterizer wrote: post #6
SeanDav wrote: post #2

As I see it, there are two elephants in the room that need addressing. - Do you really want to get involved with anything Google given their links to NSA? - Do you really want to place company or personal resources into this product given their track history of shutting down experimental, and not even experimental technologies (as this is)? (or Maybe it is time to take off my tin-foil hat. I don't know about that, I…

HN is seemingly so oversaturated with NSA items that they're seeping into all submissions regardless: I'll assume you are not trolling and just misinformed so I'll address your 'elephants': - Google already said that there are no "links": http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2013/jun/19/google... - Statistical analysis of Google closures shows that they deprecate products at below industry pace, so your impressi…

Did i miss something his response on the link posted was

'We do push back where we can, and do everything we can to protect our users’ data. But we don’t write the laws.'

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