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Former NSA Employees Praise Edward Snowden, Corroborate Key Claims

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Re: Former NSA Employees Praise Edward Snowden, Corroborate Key Claims

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Interesting that no one seems to be talking about what a treasure-trove such a storage system would be for organized crime and foreign intelligence services (such as China). Imagine if someone could compromise it and get to the same data. Doesn't seem all that far-fetched.

Re: Former NSA Employees Praise Edward Snowden, Corroborate Key Claims

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Interesting video with Binney who says they would've stopped every terrorist attack, including 9/11 had they used a simple technique him and his team outlined which he referred to as a "two degree principle".

He said its a myth they need all the data to make the connections in order to catch terrorists.

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/2475191994001/former-nsa-empl...

He starts talking about at the 2:57 mark.

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facial recognition is, amusingly, flagging other people as Snowden. "Is this you?"

On facial recognition: my understanding is that in addition to using data points that are relatively easy to change with makeup or surgery (cheekbone height, nose, etc), they use some that are not such as eyeball distance. However, could the eyeball based datapoints be tricked with specially crafted lenses in glasses frames?

http://cvdazzle.com/

Re: Former NSA Employees Praise Edward Snowden, Corroborate Key Claims

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It's been purported here that the media is coloring its reporting to paint Snowden in a bad light. But when the bias favors Snowden, everyone looks the other way. For instance, they conveniently left out any mention of this quote by Binney:

"But now he is starting to talk about things like the government hacking into China and all this kind of thing. He is going a little bit too far. I don't think he had access to that program. But somebody talked to him about it, and so he said, from what I have read, anyway, he said that somebody, a reliable source, told him that the U.S. government is hacking into all these countries. But that's not a public service, and now he is going a little beyond public service.

"So he is transitioning from whistle-blower to a traitor."

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post #15

It's been purported here that the media is coloring its reporting to paint Snowden in a bad light. But when the bias favors Snowden, everyone looks the other way. For instance, they conveniently left out any mention of this quote by Binney: "But now he is starting to talk about things like the government hacking into China and all this kind of thing. He is going a little bit too far. I don't think he had access to th…

They didn't leave it out entirely. From the last paragraph:

> one thinks he may have crossed a line by talking about surveillance on China

Re: Former NSA Employees Praise Edward Snowden, Corroborate Key Claims

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post #15

It's been purported here that the media is coloring its reporting to paint Snowden in a bad light. But when the bias favors Snowden, everyone looks the other way. For instance, they conveniently left out any mention of this quote by Binney: "But now he is starting to talk about things like the government hacking into China and all this kind of thing. He is going a little bit too far. I don't think he had access to th…

A traitor is someone who says "Hey China, we are hacking you and here is how." Someone who says "I have heard/read that the US is trying to hack China" is everyone on the internet. At worst that is libel.

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Now all we need is someone like Edward Snowden to step forward from the IRS.

The major problem with the IRS is that is handicapped by law and politics from doing it's job. There's an insane amount of capital sitting in offshore accounts that probably should have been taxed. Loopholes for the big players are crazy.

Re: Former NSA Employees Praise Edward Snowden, Corroborate Key Claims

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Now all we need is someone like Edward Snowden to step forward from the IRS.

The major problem with the IRS is that is handicapped by law and politics from doing it's job. There's an insane amount of capital sitting in offshore accounts that probably should have been taxed. Loopholes for the big players are crazy.

That sounds like a major problem for the IRS, not a major problem with the IRS.

Re: Former NSA Employees Praise Edward Snowden, Corroborate Key Claims

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Interesting that no one seems to be talking about what a treasure-trove such a storage system would be for organized crime and foreign intelligence services (such as China). Imagine if someone could compromise it and get to the same data. Doesn't seem all that far-fetched.

In fact, the Operation Aurora attacker were said to have accessed surveillance databases. But note that the root cause of this extraordinary vulnerability is the existence of the surveillance backdoors, rather than its public exposure.

Foreign intelligence services certainly have a far better picture of US intelligence capabilities than the American public. It is really of no help to them when NSA whistleblowers tell Americans "hey our government is illegally listening to your phone calls and reading your emails".

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