He'll be fine if he can get to the Ecuadorian Embassy quick enough :) I live in the UK and am utterly disgusted at the pieces of shit that act in our name. You can't vote them out as it's a bipartisan system with two sets of the same ideals. You can't revolt because everyone is too busy staring at Simon Cowel's nefarious trash pumped through our telescreens. You can't speak up because it's illegal. Sit, obey, conform…
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#12He'll be fine if he can get to the Ecuadorian Embassy quick enough :) I live in the UK and am utterly disgusted at the pieces of shit that act in our name. You can't vote them out as it's a bipartisan system with two sets of the same ideals. You can't revolt because everyone is too busy staring at Simon Cowel's nefarious trash pumped through our telescreens. You can't speak up because it's illegal. Sit, obey, conform…
I came up with a crazy idea this morning for an internet based political party that allows its members to vote on all ideas and actions the party will take. I think now is the time for something like this. We need to make it happen.
If you could text your vote in, most of the UK could even manage to have an opinion between the adverts in the X-Factor and their next cigarette.
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#13He'll be fine if he can get to the Ecuadorian Embassy quick enough :) I live in the UK and am utterly disgusted at the pieces of shit that act in our name. You can't vote them out as it's a bipartisan system with two sets of the same ideals. You can't revolt because everyone is too busy staring at Simon Cowel's nefarious trash pumped through our telescreens. You can't speak up because it's illegal. Sit, obey, conform…
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#14He'll be fine if he can get to the Ecuadorian Embassy quick enough :) I live in the UK and am utterly disgusted at the pieces of shit that act in our name. You can't vote them out as it's a bipartisan system with two sets of the same ideals. You can't revolt because everyone is too busy staring at Simon Cowel's nefarious trash pumped through our telescreens. You can't speak up because it's illegal. Sit, obey, conform…
That cracked me up. Is Assange expected to die in that embassy?
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
That cracked me up. Is Assange expected to die in that embassy?
At the moment, yes. His only other options are: 1. Get from the building to a diplomatically immune car and out of the EU. Not going to happen: the fuzz will snag him the moment he steps out of the door. 2. Wait for a politically sympathetic party is voted in and the extradition rules are changed. Not going to happen: people are too stupid to vote for anything other than "the big two" and if they did, they won't chan…
5. He finally gets stir crazy enough to attempt to sneak out and gets collared or just decides to take his chances in Sweden.
6. Ecuador gets sick of him and kicks him out (maybe after a change of leadership).
And I think 5 is likelier than 3.
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#16He'll be fine if he can get to the Ecuadorian Embassy quick enough :) I live in the UK and am utterly disgusted at the pieces of shit that act in our name. You can't vote them out as it's a bipartisan system with two sets of the same ideals. You can't revolt because everyone is too busy staring at Simon Cowel's nefarious trash pumped through our telescreens. You can't speak up because it's illegal. Sit, obey, conform…
I came up with a crazy idea this morning for an internet based political party that allows its members to vote on all ideas and actions the party will take. I think now is the time for something like this. We need to make it happen.
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#17It's [edit] certainly not the place to be if you want privacy.
RIPA (regulation of investigatory powers act) has been abused by local council staff spying on public to see if they live within a school catchment area or within an area qualifying for cheap parking. There are other abuses too.
We're bringing in a "snooper's charter" - this is just traffic data and not content of calls, but still, it's pretty unpleasant.
We had / have "Phorm" - deep packet inspection of customer internet traffic in order to serve ads.
The idea of national ID cards had a small number of opponents, but was mostly met with "meh". The thing that actually killed it was the cost to the individual. I'm sure that if they had kept the cost to £30 per person we'd all have ID cards today.
In theory GCHQ have strict regulatory oversight. I do know people who work for GCHQ. I never talk to them about work, and they never talk to me about work, but they do say that regulatory oversight is real and true.
But we don't have the US concept of "fruit of the poisoned tree" - in the US a wiretap needs a court order, and without that any evidence gained cannot be used in court. That forces cops to actually get the court order, or risk losing cases. In the UK we allow spies to gather this stuff, and police to take action on it, but we don't want it used in court because then it's a matter of public record and thus subject to scrutiny and we leak information about capabilities. I see the benefit in both approaches, but I can appreciate that some people would be horrified with the English approach.
We were complicit in torture of innocent, untried, uncharged, soldiers / terrorists / combatants.
We have detention without charge (http://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/human-rights/terroris...).
The UK has about 1% of the world population, but about 20% of the installed CCTV base.
Cheshire has a population of 700,000 people (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheshire) but has over 12,000 CCTV cameras, of which about 500 - 600 are run by public authorities.
(http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/mar/02/cctv-cameras-watchi...)
We happily ship people to the US under our unbalanced extradition treaty.
tl;dr: He'd be nuts to want to come here.
{EDIT: Strikethrough [a horrible place to live, and] in response to people below}
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#18He'll be fine if he can get to the Ecuadorian Embassy quick enough :) I live in the UK and am utterly disgusted at the pieces of shit that act in our name. You can't vote them out as it's a bipartisan system with two sets of the same ideals. You can't revolt because everyone is too busy staring at Simon Cowel's nefarious trash pumped through our telescreens. You can't speak up because it's illegal. Sit, obey, conform…
I came up with a crazy idea this morning for an internet based political party that allows its members to vote on all ideas and actions the party will take. I think now is the time for something like this. We need to make it happen.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
That cracked me up. Is Assange expected to die in that embassy?
At the moment, yes. His only other options are: 1. Get from the building to a diplomatically immune car and out of the EU. Not going to happen: the fuzz will snag him the moment he steps out of the door. 2. Wait for a politically sympathetic party is voted in and the extradition rules are changed. Not going to happen: people are too stupid to vote for anything other than "the big two" and if they did, they won't chan…
I for one hope he gets to take a senate seat in Australia. Under the rules of parliamentary privilege you can say anything in the chamber without risk of prosecution. Imagine he'd have a bit to say...
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
That cracked me up. Is Assange expected to die in that embassy?
(related) since he's been confined in this place I was wondering what happens if he must see a dentist or receive some emergency medical cares? It's better than gitmo but it's no paradise either.