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NSA Prism logo is a copyright infringment

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Re: NSA Prism logo is a copyright infringment

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Actually, though... If they've been monitoring everyone's internet traffic, it's feasible they have unwittingly downloaded illegal copies of media. Meaning they've committed copyright infringement on a massive scale?

NSA probably has specific exceptions written into law. In the UK GCHQ has exemptions to cover things like anti-circumvention of copyright law; images of child sexual abuse; copyrights; etc etc.

It's good to be king.

Re: NSA Prism logo is a copyright infringment

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It says "Free to download and use" So how is that copyright infringement?

Right after that it says ‘© Author’, which links to a Terms page, which states “If you make money from using our stuff, share it with us!” and “You acknowledge the author, including in derivative works, if possible with a caption” and “You make an effort to contribute similar material of your own creation to the Web under similar terms, if and when you can.” http://gallery.hd.org/terms.html

However, without the full slideshow we don't know as a fact that they've committed infringement.

We're working off a broad assumption that they've never attributed the author.

Re: NSA Prism logo is a copyright infringment

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Actually, though... If they've been monitoring everyone's internet traffic, it's feasible they have unwittingly downloaded illegal copies of media. Meaning they've committed copyright infringement on a massive scale?

Wouldn't a court have to prove that they intended to infringe copyright?

Re: NSA Prism logo is a copyright infringment

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Actually, though... If they've been monitoring everyone's internet traffic, it's feasible they have unwittingly downloaded illegal copies of media. Meaning they've committed copyright infringement on a massive scale?

Wouldn't a court have to prove that they intended to infringe copyright?

http://waxy.org/2011/12/no_copyright_intended/

Re: NSA Prism logo is a copyright infringment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't a court have to prove that they intended to infringe copyright?

http://waxy.org/2011/12/no_copyright_intended/

IANAL, but I suspect there's a difference between uploading a video and saying "I didn't mean to" vs just copying massive quantities of data. For example offering a backup service.

Re: NSA Prism logo is a copyright infringment

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The Federal government is has sovereign immunity, so you can only file claims against them to the extent that they allow them to.

You can sue the feds for copyright infringement, but only for reasonable compensaton -- you cannot recover the costs of litigation.

Re: NSA Prism logo is a copyright infringment

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Actually, though... If they've been monitoring everyone's internet traffic, it's feasible they have unwittingly downloaded illegal copies of media. Meaning they've committed copyright infringement on a massive scale?

It's generally not copyright infringement to simply collect data available on the internet. For example, Google downloads tons of copyrighted information; but that's not considered copyright infringement because using it for a search engine is a "transformative" use. Google is not replacing the copyright owner by redistributing the page, but is instead using it in a completely different way to provide an index of all pages.

The same would be true of the NSA. They aren't redistributing the data they download to anyone who asks, they are instead compiling an index to be searched for intelligence gathering purposes.

Re: NSA Prism logo is a copyright infringment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://waxy.org/2011/12/no_copyright_intended/

IANAL, but I suspect there's a difference between uploading a video and saying "I didn't mean to" vs just copying massive quantities of data. For example offering a backup service.

A backup service means you're acting as a dumb pipe/dumb disk. You're copying bytes without knowing the contents at the request of your user. This doesn't apply when you're seeking out data to copy on your own. In some situations you're still fine, like if you're requesting files from public web servers. But I'm not aware of any protection that would blanketly apply to intercepted connections.
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