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We Demand President Obama Resign

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Re: We Demand President Obama Resign

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My theory is that Biden was a firewall against the impeachment/resignation of Obama. And people thought Dan Quayle was bad...

My theory is that Biden has decades of experience and a speciality with international affairs, and was chosen as a counterpart to Obama's freshness- or inexperience, if you spun it another way. But hey, if you want to belittle his achievements, go ahead, I doubt he cares.

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Re: We Demand President Obama Resign

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Demanding President Obama's resignation by comparing the current NSA scandal with Watergate is an outrageous false equivalence. The Nixon administration was spying on the DNC for political gain. PRISM was built in the name of national security, and with congressional oversight to boot.

I'm as outraged as anyone about the NSA's activities, but this is an overreach that dissipates righteous anger down an unproductive path.

Re: We Demand President Obama Resign

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Are these people serious? Pushing the blame fully on Obama is absurd. Yes, he is a shit president, just like those that preceded him. But the whole government is shit. Congress sucks. The SC doesn't give a damn about the law. The whole administration, hell, all three branches are to blame, not one person.

Has Obama tried to stop the NSA surveillance program? No, he actually protected telcos from being sued.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9982898-7.html

Re: We Demand President Obama Resign

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This is incredibly unproductive. If you got 10 million people to sign this he still wouldn't resign. Millions of tea party activists have been calling for his resignation since he took office and it hasn't happened.

And really, at the end of the day, he is mostly just guilty of participating in the predominating obsession in Washington with combating terrorism -- a political culture that values finding potential terrorists more than it values basic human rights. The fact is, politicians and pundits would eviscerate him far more for letting a possible terrorist wander free then for taking a million peoples emails.

Even if he did resign, it wouldn't end this obsession. In fact, it would make could easily make things worse because by making it his fault, the narrative would become one where his removal from office cured us of this disease. But it is not his problem alone and removing him would simply kill any momentum to actually make things better.

What would work better is if you got the same 10 million people call their senators and demand legislation to protect people's phone and internet privacy, and provide a mandate to enforce this protection. Still would probably not work, but it is a hell of a lot more plausible to succeed because these efforts have actually occasionally succeeded in the past.

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