What good is donating to the EFF when they have no power to stop the CIA/NSA from doing this?
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#13I might be cynical but you cannot lobby against this. The only way you can avoid being watched is to actually take technical countermeasures to prevent being watched. What good is donating to the EFF when they have no power to stop the CIA/NSA from doing this?
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#14I might be cynical but you cannot lobby against this. The only way you can avoid being watched is to actually take technical countermeasures to prevent being watched. What good is donating to the EFF when they have no power to stop the CIA/NSA from doing this?
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#15I might be cynical but you cannot lobby against this. The only way you can avoid being watched is to actually take technical countermeasures to prevent being watched. What good is donating to the EFF when they have no power to stop the CIA/NSA from doing this?
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#16Also, you may want to support this new bill that will be introduced by Sen. Paul, tomorrow (call your senator to vote for it, etc): http://reason.com/blog/2013/06/06/rand-paul-to-introduce-fou...
If the linked PDF is actually the text of the bill then it does nothing. Searching, it will be argued, is the active analysis of collected phone calls/internet logs still currently illegal without a warrant. The passive archiving will be unaffected. Paul, I'd assume -though that assumption in turn assumes he's smart enough to tie his own shoes- knows or was told this already. So... PR stunt?
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#17I might be cynical but you cannot lobby against this. The only way you can avoid being watched is to actually take technical countermeasures to prevent being watched. What good is donating to the EFF when they have no power to stop the CIA/NSA from doing this?
So what do you do? Sit there in your room and just type you can't do anything about this. EFF at least represents your voice - they might not be as effective as we would like but they are trying none the less. It is still better than being cynical and not doing anything about it.
Donating to the EFF doesn't change the fact that the CIA/NSA are actively monitoring you now. What the NSA/CIA is doing is arguably illegal, yet they're still doing it.
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#19Also, you may want to support this new bill that will be introduced by Sen. Paul, tomorrow (call your senator to vote for it, etc): http://reason.com/blog/2013/06/06/rand-paul-to-introduce-fou...
http://www.paul.senate.gov/files/documents/4thAmdtRestoratio... One page, straight to the point. Nice.
That would also be more in line with Congress's constitutional duties. It's true that the courts should enforce a robust 4th amendment. But Congress does not need to force them to do so: it could simply not pass laws that violate the 4th amendment, or if it realizes it has done so, it can repeal those laws.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
So what do you do? Sit there in your room and just type you can't do anything about this. EFF at least represents your voice - they might not be as effective as we would like but they are trying none the less. It is still better than being cynical and not doing anything about it.
I specifically said in my post that you have to take technical countermeasures to avoid being watched (browse the web with Tor, don't signup with services that require PII, use fake PII, that kind of thing). Donating to the EFF doesn't change the fact that the CIA/NSA are actively monitoring you now . What the NSA/CIA is doing is arguably illegal, yet they're still doing it.
The long term solution has to be institutional. EFF is committed to help out there. I am not saying that EFF is the only solution (or even the best solution). But, at this point, unfortunately I feel there are few other options.