For example, if you live in California, perhaps you could call Dianne Feinstein, who when asked about this program today said, "It's called protecting America."
Petition to impeach Judge Roger Vinson for authorizing NSA Verizon surveillance
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#13I seriously don't get why people would ever submit their information to wh.gov. It's like you are adding yourself to Obama's enemy list. I'm sure Obama is going to overturn a spy program he signs off just because some rabble rousers signed an online form. The US constitution is dead. He doesn't give a damn.
We're dealing with monsters made up of many people who I am sure are actually trying to be decent people as individuals. And even if they were ALL ranging from jerks to really evil, it's not them that makes this suck so much, it's the combination of billions of people being mediocre and incredible technology. That alone is enough, no super villains needed, sadly.
TL;DR stop playing into the hands of the cancer that is taking figureheads as the substance.
Re: Petition to impeach Judge Roger Vinson for authorizing NSA Verizon surveillance
#14Re: Petition to impeach Judge Roger Vinson for authorizing NSA Verizon surveillance
#15There's plenty of anger to go around, but my understanding is that it's more productive to direct your efforts at legislators who approved the bad laws and the executives who take full opportunity to abuse them -- and not the judges who have a narrow role in this whole saga. For example, if you live in California, perhaps you could call Dianne Feinstein, who when asked about this program today said, "It's called prot…
You can contact her if you feel better. As for me, I have a folder full of form letter responses from her office explaining why it's so important that our civil liberties and privacy be curtailed to ensure our security. I don't think adding another letter to my collection will help anything. And I doubt her responses will do anything other than enrage you further.
The only sensible response at this point is to work to get her out of office in 2018. But I don't have hope for that, either.
Re: Petition to impeach Judge Roger Vinson for authorizing NSA Verizon surveillance
#16A bill of impeachment has to be filed in the House of Representatives. The White House has nothing to do with this. This petition is a waste of time. If you're upset, try to convince your Congressman.
The petition site is just the White House's way of trolling the internet into thinking they care about "internet problems".
Re: Petition to impeach Judge Roger Vinson for authorizing NSA Verizon surveillance
#17A bill of impeachment has to be filed in the House of Representatives. The White House has nothing to do with this. This petition is a waste of time. If you're upset, try to convince your Congressman.
I'm convinced that the Whitehouse petitions platform is just a pressure release valve - a way to bleed off frustration so it's not manifested in more politically-weighty ways.
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#18I seriously don't get why people would ever submit their information to wh.gov. It's like you are adding yourself to Obama's enemy list. I'm sure Obama is going to overturn a spy program he signs off just because some rabble rousers signed an online form. The US constitution is dead. He doesn't give a damn.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/07/opinion/president-obamas-d...
"The administration has now lost all credibility. Mr. Obama is proving the truism that the executive will use any power it is given and very likely abuse it."
So it's okay to submit as an article, just not for a mere mortal commenter to basically say the same fucking thing. Which reminds me, I use phrases like "'n shit" to distance myself from you lot. I could "polite talk" like the best of them, I just don't trust people who can't say "fuck", so I don't see a reason to. Think of it as garlic to vampires.
Re: Petition to impeach Judge Roger Vinson for authorizing NSA Verizon surveillance
#19There's plenty of anger to go around, but my understanding is that it's more productive to direct your efforts at legislators who approved the bad laws and the executives who take full opportunity to abuse them -- and not the judges who have a narrow role in this whole saga. For example, if you live in California, perhaps you could call Dianne Feinstein, who when asked about this program today said, "It's called prot…
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#20So much press and attention on this today, when James Bramford surfaced even more intrusive and comprehensive `See Clearly, Act Quickly' surveillance in his 2008 book Shadow Factory. That's now five years ago.