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Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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I usually don't feel anything when I hear of a innocent person dying on the news, but maybe because he's involved in tech, I too am very angry. Why does the police have to chase anyway? Why can't they just identify the car and silently follow it until it stops. Damn it.

RCMP generally don't chase vehicles here in Canada for this exact reason.

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I usually don't feel anything when I hear of a innocent person dying on the news, but maybe because he's involved in tech, I too am very angry. Why does the police have to chase anyway? Why can't they just identify the car and silently follow it until it stops. Damn it.

This article isn't available in full online (well, without paying), but it's all about why in the LA area there are so many police chases:

http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2006/01/23/060123fa_fact_fr...

I haven't read it since it came out in 2006, but suffice it to say that the Los Angeles area has vastly more police chases per capita than the rest of the United States, and therefore if something like this was going to happen it's statistically unsurprising that it happened near LA.

From that article: "In 2004, California led the nation with 7,321 pursuits, and the majority of them-5,596-took place in L.A. County". Google cites approximately 10 million population for LA County and 38 million for California, so if my math is right that's roughly 56 car chases per 100,000 population in LA County versus 6 per 100,000 in the rest of the state. (Population figures are 2011 for LA County, 2012 for California, versus 2004 for the chase stats, but it should be pretty close.)

That doesn't answer why the police chase, because obviously it's done far less elsewhere, though it does happen. In Austin, Texas, my wife was overtaken on the highway by a car being chased by the police, and in order to avoid getting rear-ended by the chasee who was going very fast she side-swiped the vehicle next to her and substantial damage was done. Some day if that criminal strikes it rich she's theoretically got victim's compensation due to her. We're not holding our breath. They ended up catching the guy on foot after he exited the highway.

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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Because it's more fun for them if they chase. Really, very rarely should it make sense for cops to endanger countless civilian lives to catch a criminal.

More fun? Imagine you're a cop chasing the car running though several red lights. That would be terrifying.

If you're a patrolman then a car chase is probably one of the more exciting things you'll do, and it's a scenario that comes to mind when you first think of "this is what police do". In reality, you probably spend a lot of time checking mundane things, pulling people over (perhaps to meet a quota), and lots of paperwork and bureaucracy.

Even if it is scary, I think it's possible that some officers won't back down from a chase. And this involved a chase of someone believed to be a public menace.

(Sorry, not justifying the actual chase. Just pointing out that it's not strange that it occurred, given the status quo there)

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Because it's more fun for them if they chase. Really, very rarely should it make sense for cops to endanger countless civilian lives to catch a criminal.

More fun? Imagine you're a cop chasing the car running though several red lights. That would be terrifying.

Most cities do not allow cops to conduct high speed chases in populated areas. But it happens and innocent people die, because the cops are on a righteous mission and shall not be deterred.

I watched a 25 year old woman die on the pavement at 16th and Dolores in San Francisco, hit by a car running a red light, being chased by cops. Apparently the car had been reported stolen.

Not a worthy mission, in my opinion.

Note: of course it's the chasee's fault. But cops know exactly what happens in these situations, and cannot be excused.

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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Just terrible :( Why does it always seem like the worst and most insignificant wastes of human beings always take away great ones?

> the worst and most insignificant wastes of human beings always take away great ones?

Because you never cared about non-great ones. Observer bias.

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