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Re: 1 Million Google Android Phones sold by T-Mobile

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Post by mcantelon »

SwellJoe wrote: post #5

I've just started tinkering with developing for the Android. The whole iPhone development experience (Step 1: Buy a Mac) just wasn't appealing, so I've mostly sat out that market explosion. We did do an iPhone theme for our products using iUI, and luckily, it works pretty much unmodified on the G1 and looks great (and never required Mac ownership, just an iPhone for testing). But, I feel like I can actually be involv…

A used MacBook is all you need to do iPhone dev and is much cheaper than a few grand.

Nonetheless, I am also not a fan of Apple's control freakishness. I am not willing to invest in development of a product that Apple can disallow at a whim. Nor am I fond of Apple's willingness to use software patents to discourage competition. So Android it is.

iUI/Phonegap are great for cross-platform development and I believe Google's long-term vision to be much more ambitious and interesting than Apple's.

Re: 1 Million Google Android Phones sold by T-Mobile

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Post by jrockway »

dmix wrote: post #4
nuclear_eclipse wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have one as well, and after seeing how powerful and flexible Android is to both users and developers, I'm in love. Probably the best app I've found is called Locale, and it just proves how much you really can do with the phone/OS. I've set up a set of series of situations, some triggered by my location, others by time or incoming contacts, and each situation allows me to specify a set of configuration changes that…

I checked out the Locale site, this quote is an awesome introduction to a product: "In March 2005, Judge Robert Restaino jailed 46 people when a mobile phone rang in his New York courtroom and no one would admit responsibility. So we invented Locale. Problem solved."

Amusingly:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Restaino

"By indiscriminately committing into custody 46 defendants, [Restaino] deprived them of their liberty without due process, exhibited insensitivity, indifference and a callousness so reproachable that his continued presence on the Bench cannot be tolerated."

Re: 1 Million Google Android Phones sold by T-Mobile

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Post by SwellJoe »

mcantelon wrote: post #11
SwellJoe wrote: post #5

I've just started tinkering with developing for the Android. The whole iPhone development experience (Step 1: Buy a Mac) just wasn't appealing, so I've mostly sat out that market explosion. We did do an iPhone theme for our products using iUI, and luckily, it works pretty much unmodified on the G1 and looks great (and never required Mac ownership, just an iPhone for testing). But, I feel like I can actually be involv…

A used MacBook is all you need to do iPhone dev and is much cheaper than a few grand. Nonetheless, I am also not a fan of Apple's control freakishness. I am not willing to invest in development of a product that Apple can disallow at a whim. Nor am I fond of Apple's willingness to use software patents to discourage competition. So Android it is. iUI/Phonegap are great for cross-platform development and I believe Goog…

Agreed. The Mac expenditure is just the beginning of my hesitation to jump on board the iPhone development bandwagon. With Android, I know I can make my applications available regardless of whether Apple thinks they are worthy of the store. And that one tiny bit of certainty is worth a huge amount to me.

I'm also much more fond of open platforms, but I didn't want to get all "Linux rules, Apple drools" as I reckon it's a personal choice rather than an objective business imperative.

Re: 1 Million Google Android Phones sold by T-Mobile

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Post by mis »

greggraham wrote: post #6
jraines wrote: post #2

I've got one and I love it. With a real headphone jack and Flash support, it would be the perfect phone IMHO.

I've heard complaints about the poor battery life on the G1. How is that working for you?

Sucked at first, but now I got 3-4 days without charge. Just takes time to break in, I feel like.

Re: 1 Million Google Android Phones sold by T-Mobile

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Post by SwellJoe »

greggraham wrote: post #6
jraines wrote: post #2

I've got one and I love it. With a real headphone jack and Flash support, it would be the perfect phone IMHO.

I've heard complaints about the poor battery life on the G1. How is that working for you?

I think there's a bit of a quality control issue, or perhaps early batteries had problems. I have two G1s...a standard issue that arrived on release day, and a developer edition that I just got a few weeks ago. The former doesn't last a whole day of moderate usage with 3G enabled (but lasts about 1.5 days of moderate usage with 3G disabled). The latter easily lasts all day with 3G enabled. I charge every night, and I've never found it to give out by the end of day on days when I remember to charge it (and when I have forgotten to charge it, I've been pleased by how fast it'll charge up).

I have no complaints at all about battery life on the newer phone. The older one was disappointing, and I was afraid I was stuck with something that would never really be great.

Someone else suggested a "break in" period, but my older phone never got better after extensive use. The new phone was good from day one.

Re: 1 Million Google Android Phones sold by T-Mobile

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Post by jraines »

greggraham wrote: post #6
jraines wrote: post #2

I've got one and I love it. With a real headphone jack and Flash support, it would be the perfect phone IMHO.

I've heard complaints about the poor battery life on the G1. How is that working for you?

It will last a 6-8 hours of fairly heavy surfing (no video, 1 or 2 podcasts) on the cell data network, or a full day of normal use/non-use. I usually leave wifi and GPS off, and haven't really had any problems w/battery life.

Re: 1 Million Google Android Phones sold by T-Mobile

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Post by nuclear_eclipse »

aswanson wrote: post #13

I want one but the price for a current T-mobile customer is just over the top.

I was a current T-Mobile customer, and I was still able to get two of the phones for the standard $179/each by renewing my contract. If you don't want to deal with contracts, you should expect to pay much more for your phones anyways...

Re: 1 Million Google Android Phones sold by T-Mobile

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Post by simanyay »

greggraham wrote: post #6
jraines wrote: post #2

I've got one and I love it. With a real headphone jack and Flash support, it would be the perfect phone IMHO.

I've heard complaints about the poor battery life on the G1. How is that working for you?

Truth to tell, those complaints are mostly valid. However, you can always bring the second (third, fourth, etc.) battery with you.

Re: 1 Million Google Android Phones sold by T-Mobile

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Post by aswanson »

nuclear_eclipse wrote: post #18
aswanson wrote: post #13

I want one but the price for a current T-mobile customer is just over the top.

I was a current T-Mobile customer, and I was still able to get two of the phones for the standard $179/each by renewing my contract. If you don't want to deal with contracts, you should expect to pay much more for your phones anyways...

On the site they give a price of $359 with a contract renewal, $399 without. Were you at the end of the contract when you renewed?
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