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Re: Amazon Announces Login with Amazon

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Alright, but the question is "why would someone want to log in with Amazon"? There's no social network attached to your Amazon account. It seems like it would be an odd choice of identity provider, unless you are a store and already using Amazon's fulfillment services.

> "why would someone want to log in with Amazon"?

> There's no social network attached to your Amazon account

I think you answered your own question.

Re: Amazon Announces Login with Amazon

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Alright, but the question is "why would someone want to log in with Amazon"? There's no social network attached to your Amazon account. It seems like it would be an odd choice of identity provider, unless you are a store and already using Amazon's fulfillment services.

What does a social network have to do with it? I thought that logging in using a third-party account was simply a way to ease signups and limit password/account explosion, nothing to do with "social" anything. Certainly that's how I use it.

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I was shocked to discover this is the canonical URL & domain for the Amazon press releases. After I clicked the link and saw the URL I initially thought this was some bizarre phishing scheme. That being said, I think this is a great idea. I don't love the Facebook OAuth flow and the amount of access most apps ask for. I have trouble taking Twitter seriously as an OAuth provider [bias much?]. I think there are many US…

I agree. I love OAuth idea and the single-sign on flow. I love having one source where I can go and see all of the sites that have my info, and I love being able to rescind my account from that central location.

However, I hate that Facebook/Twitter take it a step further with all of their social integration features to the point where many apps assume, by default, that you want to share share share everything you do all over your social network.

As I've found a number of apps/websites that do not allow you to continue without giving them permission to post on your wall, I've been forced to mark every single app/OAuth site on my Facebook as available to "only me". Post all you want, no one will ever see it.

Curating what gets posted under your name shouldn't be this much work. I shouldn't have to strive for a clean digital presence with content that adds something to my readers life.

I'd love an OAuth provider that HAS NO SOCIAL NETWORK!

And Google is out on this too, sorry, but Google Plus is obviously the only web property that Google cares about anymore and trusting them not to socialify everything is a fools game.

Re: Amazon Announces Login with Amazon

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Alright, but the question is "why would someone want to log in with Amazon"? There's no social network attached to your Amazon account. It seems like it would be an odd choice of identity provider, unless you are a store and already using Amazon's fulfillment services.

Why? Because there isn't a social network attached to it. I don't have to create another username/password and I can possibly avoid entering credit card details into another site if I decide to do business with them. Why not is a better question.

Re: Amazon Announces Login with Amazon

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This is about the four horsemen -- Amazon, Apple, Facebook, Google -- and how Amazon is moving forward with Facebook and Google, and perhaps into the lead.

The true purpose of Google+ is to accumulate more information about you, not to be a "social network" per se. The latter is the means to the former.

Amazon has a huge amount of exceptionally high quality ecommerce information. They have "only" 200 million users, but info about what they actually like -- because they buy it -- not what they say they like. Plus, for search -- if you're searching for products/pricing, you might already use Amazon not Google.

Login helps Amazon extend information beyond ecommerce -- and potentially pull clearly in the lead in that regard compared to Facebook and Google.

Apple...has a problem in this regard. Excellent company in many respects, but falling out of the pack in this regard.

p.s. In all of the above I'm only talking about it from the company perspective. If you think it's not necessarily a good thing for a company to have even more complete data about you, I wouldn't argue with you.

Re: Amazon Announces Login with Amazon

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post #14

I was shocked to discover this is the canonical URL & domain for the Amazon press releases. After I clicked the link and saw the URL I initially thought this was some bizarre phishing scheme. That being said, I think this is a great idea. I don't love the Facebook OAuth flow and the amount of access most apps ask for. I have trouble taking Twitter seriously as an OAuth provider [bias much?]. I think there are many US…

I agree. I love OAuth idea and the single-sign on flow. I love having one source where I can go and see all of the sites that have my info, and I love being able to rescind my account from that central location. However, I hate that Facebook/Twitter take it a step further with all of their social integration features to the point where many apps assume, by default, that you want to share share share everything you do…

Amazon does have a social network though https://kindle.amazon.com/, actually two now with the aquisition of goodreads

Re: Amazon Announces Login with Amazon

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Alright, but the question is "why would someone want to log in with Amazon"? There's no social network attached to your Amazon account. It seems like it would be an odd choice of identity provider, unless you are a store and already using Amazon's fulfillment services.

For some reason it strikes me as a pretty good idea. Upon further reflection, I think it has something to do with: - Trust -- people increasingly distrust sites like Facebook or Google (privacy concerns), but Amazon still has pretty much entirely "positive" feelings for consumers. And if they can run AWS as well as they can, then you assume you can trust them with your password too - Micropayments -- your credit card…

That's probably because you're a paying customer rather than a pair of eyeballs to them.
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