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How to eat healthily for £1 per day – version 0.2

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Re: How to eat healthily for £1 per day – version 0.2

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Post by frou_dh »

VLM wrote: post #6

Lets flag last time's discussion of v0.1 ahead of time, so we can move on and advance rather than rehash. 1) A little too much oil/fat to be politically correct, a bit too little to be nutritionally correct. Canola oil? I wouldn't put that in my car. Eat half as much olive oil if you have to, but don't eat that rot. 2) Carbs about right to be politically correct, WAY too much grains/carbs to be nutritionally correct.…

I'd rather flag the entire submission. Cooking cheap is one thing, but the "healthy" throughline continues to go nowhere.

The meal plan should be christened "This Week In Starch". Just look at it!

Re: How to eat healthily for £1 per day – version 0.2

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Post by VLM »

mitchi wrote: post #10
VLM wrote: post #6

Lets flag last time's discussion of v0.1 ahead of time, so we can move on and advance rather than rehash. 1) A little too much oil/fat to be politically correct, a bit too little to be nutritionally correct. Canola oil? I wouldn't put that in my car. Eat half as much olive oil if you have to, but don't eat that rot. 2) Carbs about right to be politically correct, WAY too much grains/carbs to be nutritionally correct.…

314 carbs is around what a bodybuilder eats when he's bulking up. But bodybuilders eat 4 times this amount of protein (55 g). This diet is designed for a normal/small person obviously! How much would it cost to throw a multivitamin in there? Get some zinc, magnesium, fish oils in there since there's no meat at all. Zinc is obviously important if you're a man since you need it to produce testosterone.

"How much would it cost to throw a multivitamin in there?"

Supplements would be an interesting v0.3 or perhaps appendix to her next plan. I am well aware of body builders consuming 500 grams of protein/day in the form of weird expensive powders. But I wonder as a supplement to the existing diet how it works mathematically to eat perhaps 5 grams instead of 500 grams of supplement "complete" protein powder per day and then maybe cheap out on the bulk plant protein by selecting some plant that's not a complete protein. Carried out to a logical extreme I wonder if it "works" financially and nutritionally at $1/day or whatever to just eat rice and pop a multivitamin and a very small protein shake every day.

Re: How to eat healthily for £1 per day – version 0.2

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Post by juskrey »

frou_dh wrote: post #11
VLM wrote: post #6

Lets flag last time's discussion of v0.1 ahead of time, so we can move on and advance rather than rehash. 1) A little too much oil/fat to be politically correct, a bit too little to be nutritionally correct. Canola oil? I wouldn't put that in my car. Eat half as much olive oil if you have to, but don't eat that rot. 2) Carbs about right to be politically correct, WAY too much grains/carbs to be nutritionally correct.…

I'd rather flag the entire submission. Cooking cheap is one thing, but the "healthy" throughline continues to go nowhere. The meal plan should be christened "This Week In Starch". Just look at it!

After watching on my own eyes that unbelievable soylent mess, I'd rather leave that kind of topics for natural selection.

Re: How to eat healthily for £1 per day – version 0.2

#15

Post by VLM »

TamDenholm wrote: post #3

It'd be interesting to see if anyone could look at this from a more "business" point of view, basically investing money up front for a better quality diet for less cost over the long term. For instance, buying seeds and growing veg, herbs, etc. Even buying 2-3 chickens and keeping them in your garden for eggs and perhaps meat. It'd be interesting to see what kind of investment would be needed, what the running cost w…

"basically investing money up front"

She came down pretty hard on that in the article, even to the point of not buying spices because the smallest container is an expensive three months supply. Which is too bad.

On the other hand allowing 80 pound sacks of rice vs the little 1 pound bags that cost 2x as much per pound is going to really distort and mess up her math, so maybe she needs to stick to her very strict budget.

Re: How to eat healthily for £1 per day – version 0.2

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Post by Paul_S »

Buy spices in bulk - save lots of money. The price per kg is the same as per 100g at your supermarket. And then you can get away with eating the same staple foods all the time.

More meat and at least some beef. Obviously you can't eat steak for dinner every day for £1 a day but come on, a little thinly sliced beef stir fried with some teriyaki sauce - I can skip lunch for that.

Why no pasta? It's awesome to use up any leftovers you may have.

Then again you got your budget down to ~30 quid and I'm at more than twice that (though I never get over 80 except when it spikes around every 6 months when I buy spices) so clearly you must be making better choices. My excuse is that I eat meat and bake cakes.

Re: How to eat healthily for £1 per day – version 0.2

#18

Post by yummyfajitas »

mitchi wrote: post #10
VLM wrote: post #6

Lets flag last time's discussion of v0.1 ahead of time, so we can move on and advance rather than rehash. 1) A little too much oil/fat to be politically correct, a bit too little to be nutritionally correct. Canola oil? I wouldn't put that in my car. Eat half as much olive oil if you have to, but don't eat that rot. 2) Carbs about right to be politically correct, WAY too much grains/carbs to be nutritionally correct.…

314 carbs is around what a bodybuilder eats when he's bulking up. But bodybuilders eat 4 times this amount of protein (55 g). This diet is designed for a normal/small person obviously! How much would it cost to throw a multivitamin in there? Get some zinc, magnesium, fish oils in there since there's no meat at all. Zinc is obviously important if you're a man since you need it to produce testosterone.

...what a bodybuilder eats when he's bulking up. But bodybuilders eat 4 times this amount of protein (55 g).

A midget bodybuilder. The rule of thumb is 0.75-1g protein/lb bodyweight, 0.5g for maintenance.

Re: How to eat healthily for £1 per day – version 0.2

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Post by Nrsolis »

VLM wrote: post #12
mitchi wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

314 carbs is around what a bodybuilder eats when he's bulking up. But bodybuilders eat 4 times this amount of protein (55 g). This diet is designed for a normal/small person obviously! How much would it cost to throw a multivitamin in there? Get some zinc, magnesium, fish oils in there since there's no meat at all. Zinc is obviously important if you're a man since you need it to produce testosterone.

"How much would it cost to throw a multivitamin in there?" Supplements would be an interesting v0.3 or perhaps appendix to her next plan. I am well aware of body builders consuming 500 grams of protein/day in the form of weird expensive powders. But I wonder as a supplement to the existing diet how it works mathematically to eat perhaps 5 grams instead of 500 grams of supplement "complete" protein powder per day and…

Whatever happened to "Eat Food. Not too much. Mostly plants." ?

One of the things that worries me is the focus on cost as opposed to nutrition. As it stands, we have relatively poor ways of measuring the nutritive value of any particular meal vice measuring the cost. We've trained entire generations to shop for food on taste and cost rather than nutrition.

If you've ever watched those documentaries on morbidly obese people, you learn that even though these people are consuming tens of thousands of cheap calories per day, they're all malnourished.

My wife started a ketogenic diet and I've largely been following her meal plan. Since the only way to guarantee that we have nothing added to our food by an sneaky enterprising chef or food processor, we cook mostly at home.

As a result, we've saved something like $2K per month on restaurant bills. Keep in mind that we're not making any special effort to save money.

As a bonus, my wife has greatly reduced her bf% and has seen several markers of absolute health improve significantly. I've reduced bf% and improved my lifting program along with my sleep and mental clarity.

Re: How to eat healthily for £1 per day – version 0.2

#20

Post by skrause »

VLM wrote: post #6

Lets flag last time's discussion of v0.1 ahead of time, so we can move on and advance rather than rehash. 1) A little too much oil/fat to be politically correct, a bit too little to be nutritionally correct. Canola oil? I wouldn't put that in my car. Eat half as much olive oil if you have to, but don't eat that rot. 2) Carbs about right to be politically correct, WAY too much grains/carbs to be nutritionally correct.…

What's wrong with canola oil?
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