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These guys have taken the same physical phenomena used in the newish Dyson fans and hand dryers and found a radically different way to use it.

This looks as simple as a paper clip and I think in years to come many people will wonder why they didn't think of it first. True genius

EDIT: I stand corrected by HN. There are number of bags that use similar techniques and apparently airplane evacuation slides inflate using that physical phenomena as well.

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post #7

So how does this work?

Scroll down the Kickstarter page for a very readable explanation:

"The secret behind the Windcatcher's amazing speed of inflation is its ability to leverage the awesome properties of air. Simply put, the two most important properties are:

- Fast moving air has lower air pressure than slow moving air

- Air with higher pressure will be drawn to areas of lower pressure

When you blow into the Windcatcher you create a stream of fast moving, low pressure air. Because it has a higher air pressure, the surrounding air is sucked into the low pressure air stream. As a result, the air entering the Windcatcher is at least 10 to 15 times greater than the air you expelled from your lungs."

Re: New closure allows camping mattress to be inflated in seconds

#13
Ok, i'll play devil's advocate : Windcatcher works as same principle as evacuation slides on planes and even if it's about physics i think it's somehow ( design ? ) patented.

So, what about patents ? Is there any patent that product violate and may cause later any problem ?

Re: New closure allows camping mattress to be inflated in seconds

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post #12
post #7

So how does this work?

Scroll down the Kickstarter page for a very readable explanation: "The secret behind the Windcatcher's amazing speed of inflation is its ability to leverage the awesome properties of air. Simply put, the two most important properties are: - Fast moving air has lower air pressure than slow moving air - Air with higher pressure will be drawn to areas of lower pressure When you blow into the Windcatcher you create a str…

I guess the final sentence is missing a "volume of", i.e. it should be something like "As a result, *the volume of air entering the Windcatcher [...]", right? I double-checked and this error is on the Kickstarter page, it's not your quote.

Just mentioning it in case the project owners drop by. Cool project, by the way!

Re: New closure allows camping mattress to be inflated in seconds

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post #13

Ok, i'll play devil's advocate : Windcatcher works as same principle as evacuation slides on planes and even if it's about physics i think it's somehow ( design ? ) patented. So, what about patents ? Is there any patent that product violate and may cause later any problem ?

I'm willing to bet they began the process of patenting the design prior to putting videos of it on the internet.

Re: New closure allows camping mattress to be inflated in seconds

#16
post #3

Nice concept, but I'm wondering how inflating a mattress in this manner will allow you to achieve the pressure needed to support your weight.

Yeah, I was wondering the same. We have some nice fluff about air pressure and moving large volumes of air, but no indication of how any sort of pressure is achieved.

Re: New closure allows camping mattress to be inflated in seconds

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post #3

Nice concept, but I'm wondering how inflating a mattress in this manner will allow you to achieve the pressure needed to support your weight.

It looks like you inflate as much as you can, and then you roll the little inflation tab in to compress the air and achieve pressure.

Re: New closure allows camping mattress to be inflated in seconds

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These guys have taken the same physical phenomena used in the newish Dyson fans and hand dryers and found a radically different way to use it. This looks as simple as a paper clip and I think in years to come many people will wonder why they didn't think of it first. True genius EDIT: I stand corrected by HN. There are number of bags that use similar techniques and apparently airplane evacuation slides inflate using…

What exactly is the phenomenon they're taking advantage of?

Re: New closure allows camping mattress to be inflated in seconds

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post #13

Ok, i'll play devil's advocate : Windcatcher works as same principle as evacuation slides on planes and even if it's about physics i think it's somehow ( design ? ) patented. So, what about patents ? Is there any patent that product violate and may cause later any problem ?

Say it's the exact same mechanism as evacuation slides.

Patents in the U.S. since 1995 have had a term of 20 years, prior to 1995 it was a term of 17 years.

The slides were initially patented in 1956. In 1956 the U.S. patent term was 17 years; those patents expired in 1973.

But, let's suppose some advances were made and the specific valving mechanism was patented later. It would have had to have been invented and patented some time after 1995 to still be covered by a patent.

If it were patented any earlier, its term will have expired and the idea is now in the public domain, which means anyone can use the idea without paying anything.

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